YafaRay rendering (Direct lighting + sky lighting enabled).
Design : Créa-Déco de Flo
Lighting : Enko Nyito
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| Posted by enkonyito at Apr 6, 2020, 9:35:05 PM |
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PhotoVideoRenderingDemo YafaRay rendering (Direct lighting + sky lighting enabled). Design : Créa-Déco de Flo Lighting : Enko Nyito ---------------------------------------- EnkoNyito |
| Posted by Xiste at Apr 8, 2020, 10:07:32 PM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo These are very nice renderings,Enko. Did you use Yafaray or Sunflow? Xiste |
| Posted by UbuntuBirdy at Apr 8, 2020, 10:22:31 PM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo YafaRay rendering (Direct lighting + sky lighting enabled). Xiste, guess which one...  But you're right, the renderings are awesome! ---------------------------------------- Pascal SH3D 6.6 / Ubuntu 22.04 (Mainline-Kernel) / Radeon RX580 / Ryzen 7 5800x |
| Posted by Xiste at Apr 9, 2020, 10:07:47 AM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo Xiste, guess which one... tongue Unfortunately I'm not owner of the same skills as you. As Enko clearly points out, the lighting is done by him ( her?). I wonder what are Enko's tricks for getting the light so natural. As I am presently working on constructing and presenting my new studio, I'm trying to learn all I can about lighting. My experience is that Yafaray gives very noisy results on light surfaces in dark areas, and I can't find any noise in Enko's renderings, which show many light surfaces in dark areas, f.i. in the first image where there is a perfect gradient leading into the corner at the center of the picture. This is an example of where Yafaray normally will produce noise, while Sunflow tends to produce banding. I see neither. I wonder if Enko's perfect results depend more on the lighting, the render engine or the combination. I also wonder what makes it so easy to say which render engine has been used on the different pictures. Are there any particular signs I should look for? Xiste |
| Posted by UbuntuBirdy at Apr 9, 2020, 3:16:35 PM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo Enkos post starts with "YafaRay rendering". So the only skill you have to hav is the ability to read a text... But my answer was a joke. With this wondeful pictures it is easy to overread the small text part. ---------------------------------------- Pascal SH3D 6.6 / Ubuntu 22.04 (Mainline-Kernel) / Radeon RX580 / Ryzen 7 5800x |
| Posted by enkonyito at Apr 10, 2020, 5:06:39 PM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo Xiste, Pascal, thank you for your comments on the quality of the renderings! Did you use Yafaray or Sunflow? All the previous images were made with the YafaRay rendering engine.I wonder what are Enko's tricks for getting the light so natural. You can get a preview with the SH3D file available here. (saved rendering settings)I wonder if Enko's perfect results depend more on the lighting, the render engine or the combination. Each point of view has a different time. For a light power > 0: * light panel - daylight (variable light intensity depending on the time of day) * unviewable or opaque light panel (fixed light intensity) * light sphere - automatic (off during the day and on at night) * unviewable or opaque light sphere (always on) Enko ---------------------------------------- EnkoNyito |
| Posted by Xiste at Apr 11, 2020, 9:48:09 AM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo So the only skill you have to hav is the ability to read a text... I'll let you in on a little secret: I'm blind as a bat. That's why I work with film ;) |
| Posted by UbuntuBirdy at Apr 11, 2020, 1:03:00 PM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo So the only skill you have to hav is the ability to read a text... I'll let you in on a little secret: I'm blind as a bat. That's why I work with film ;) Oh, be careful, bats have a bad reputation right now... ---------------------------------------- Pascal SH3D 6.6 / Ubuntu 22.04 (Mainline-Kernel) / Radeon RX580 / Ryzen 7 5800x |
| Posted by Xiste at Apr 12, 2020, 9:27:21 PM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo bats have a bad reputation right now... Yes, and it's very undeserving. I think we shall have to do something about that... very soon! @Enko Thanks for sharing the lighted demo. It's a great help! Xiste |
| Posted by Ceciliabr at Apr 14, 2020, 1:56:06 PM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo @enkonyito * light sphere - automatic (off during the day and on at night) Is there any chance that this effect could be extended to the panel lights as well? cec |
| Posted by enkonyito at Apr 15, 2020, 4:47:59 PM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo @enkonyito * light sphere - automatic (off during the day and on at night) Is there any chance that this effect could be extended to the panel lights as well? cec The daylight panel is on during the day and off at night, but the color cannot be changed. Yes, it is possible to have the same effect as the automatic sphere for a light panel because the management of the rendering is based on a keyword in the description of the object. Would you like to have this effect for an opaque, unviewable light panel or both? ---------------------------------------- EnkoNyito |
| Posted by bdfd at Apr 15, 2020, 5:41:02 PM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo Would you like to have this effect for an opaque, unviewable light panel or both? Yes ! . ---------------------------------------- Evil progresses when good people do nothing! --- SH3D 7.1 and nothing else - W11 64b in 4K |
| Posted by Ceciliabr at Apr 18, 2020, 10:36:14 AM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo Both would be great! Cec |
| Posted by enkonyito at May 3, 2020, 9:07:10 PM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo Clay rendering test with YafaRay.     Enko ---------------------------------------- EnkoNyito |
| Posted by hal9000 at May 4, 2020, 9:38:27 PM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo I almost was expecting Humphrey Bogart sit on one of these chairs, smoking a cigarette at the terrace... ---------------------------------------- If a long walk every day were healthy, mailmen would be immortal. |
| Posted by VeroniQ at May 5, 2020, 7:29:21 AM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo Sure! Interesting renderings. They look very "realistic", like real picture in black and white. |
| Posted by Xiste at May 9, 2020, 10:17:35 PM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo What is clay rendering? What is it used for? X |
| Posted by hansmex at May 10, 2020, 7:10:15 AM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo A clay render is a render in a basic, uniform material. (I didn't know that, but my friends at Google do...). H ---------------------------------------- Hans new website - under constuction hansdirkse.info |
| Posted by enkonyito at May 12, 2020, 12:34:11 AM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo What is clay rendering? What is it used for? Normally, YafaRay has an option to make a clay render by temporarily replacing all the materials in a scene with the same color. Here I did it manually in a copy of the project. This makes it possible to better understand the modeling and lighting. ---------------------------------------- EnkoNyito |
| Posted by Xiste at May 12, 2020, 5:30:37 PM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo I see. Thank you both.  Guess I'm not the only one wondering about this, so it's nice that the explanation is in the thread. |
| Posted by enkonyito at May 23, 2020, 5:08:28 PM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo PhotoVideoRenderingDemo - sunlight simulation_YafaRay ---------------------------------------- EnkoNyito |
| Posted by Mike53 at May 23, 2020, 6:52:15 PM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo Thats impressive. |
| Posted by enkonyito at May 25, 2020, 2:33:20 AM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo Thanks Mike! The video rendering took about 4 hours. ---------------------------------------- EnkoNyito |
| Posted by Ceciliabr at May 26, 2020, 7:34:02 PM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo How did you make it? I would really like to produce something like this, but with a much slower pace. Four hours is not long in my world. My last video rendered for five days – before it crashed and left me with nothing. That was not the first time I had a crash during video rendering – in fact, ALL my video renderings have crashed at some point – leaving me with nothing. All this energy evaporating into thin air and causing nothing but a slight increase in global warming :) I'm fully aware that not everyone can assign their computer to render for five days ( or more) and still lead a normal life, but I'm lucky to have more than one computer... So I'm asking: Is there any possibility that an unfinished video can be saved, like it is for an unfinished rendering? I can easily do a "pick-up" from where it crashed and continue rendering from that point and onwards, since I store all my camera positions for the video. I'm probably asking a lot, but you ARE the wizard, after all... Cecilia |
| Posted by enkonyito at May 28, 2020, 1:15:53 AM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo @Cecilia How did you make it? For my first video rendering with YafaRay, I chose a sunlight simulation.I would really like to produce something like this, but with a much slower pace. In order to reduce the rendering time in SH3D, I used a speed of 2x with a frame rate of 25. Then I doubled the duration of the video in an editor. The more recorded positions you have, the slower your animation will be. My last video rendered for five days – before it crashed and left me with nothing. Video crashes only happen with the SunFlow rendering engine? It seems that your old bug doesn't happen with YafaRay.That was not the first time I had a crash during video rendering – in fact, ALL my video renderings have crashed at some point – leaving me with nothing. Is there any possibility that an unfinished video can be saved, like it is for an unfinished rendering? To make an animation, Sweet Home 3D assembles JPEG images into a Quicktime video.The JPEGImagesToVideo class does not allow to recover the part of the animation which has already been rendered. Unfortunately, an interrupted video is not playable. Enko ---------------------------------------- EnkoNyito |
| Posted by digitaltrails at May 28, 2020, 11:27:49 PM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo Not a solution, but an alternative. In the past I've done some animations by using Multiple-Photo-Rendering to generate a series of still images to be combined externally . If SH3D falls over I at least have all the images generated to the point of failure. To make this easier I created a plugin that exports and imports camera locations: https://sourceforge.net/p/sweethome3d/plug-ins/25/ The plugin can import more cameras than the SH3D would normally allow. Because the import/export format is CSV I can easily write scripts or spreadsheets to generate sequences of camera locations. |
| Posted by digitaltrails at May 28, 2020, 11:35:59 PM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo ... Is there any possibility that an unfinished video can be saved, like it is for an unfinished rendering? To make an animation, Sweet Home 3D assembles JPEG images into a Quicktime video.The JPEGImagesToVideo class does not allow to recover the part of the animation which has already been rendered. Unfortunately, an interrupted video is not playable. Enko If there was an option to write out the jpegs to a folder, a user would then have the option to reconstruct the video from the jpegs and to skip over the already rendered jpegs to continue after the point of failure. Alternatively, like some cameras, there could be a configurable limit and the renderer could start a new video file after every n-frames or n-minutes. The resulting videos could also then be manually combined. |
| Posted by Ceciliabr at May 30, 2020, 1:35:57 PM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo To make an animation, Sweet Home 3D assembles JPEG images into a Quicktime video. Exactly, and there are several programs (Photoshop, AfterEffects) that can import image sequences. Jpeg- png- and tiff sequences are easy to process. Since the Quicktome movie is not assembled until the image sequence is finished, the rendered images must be stored somewhere. In a temp folder I would assume? Maybe a choice to create an image sequence or a quicktime movie could be an option? Just wondering :) |
| Posted by enkonyito at Jun 4, 2020, 10:34:26 PM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo SunFlow rendering : - daylight panels - path tracing - sky lighting enabled     Enko ---------------------------------------- EnkoNyito |
| Posted by enkonyito at Jul 26, 2020, 10:24:44 PM |
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Re: PhotoVideoRenderingDemo To make an animation, Sweet Home 3D assembles JPEG images into a Quicktime video. Exactly, and there are several programs (Photoshop, AfterEffects) that can import image sequences. Jpeg- png- and tiff sequences are easy to process. Since the Quicktome movie is not assembled until the image sequence is finished, the rendered images must be stored somewhere. In a temp folder I would assume? Maybe a choice to create an image sequence or a quicktime movie could be an option? Just wondering :) For the standard SH3D video panel, a temporary .mov file is created while for my plug-in it is created live. Unfortunately the images are not stored in any folder even temporary. Perhaps it should be asked of Puybaret. ---------------------------------------- EnkoNyito |
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