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Posted by MartinH81 at Feb 17, 2024, 8:57:46 AM
Is there a plugin to measure things in aerial view?
I have a problem that I have to fill a non-perpendicular hole in a wall and all I have is what I can see in the aerial view. I could of course design a 3d shape with a plugin, but for that I would need to measure what I can see in the aerial view.

Posted by Puybaret at Feb 17, 2024, 9:21:21 AM
Re: Is there a plugin to measure things in aerial view?
From version 7.2, you can create dimensions visible in the 3D view, and there's an option to create elevation dimensions.
Hope this will help...
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Posted by MartinH81 at Feb 17, 2024, 1:29:57 PM
Re: Is there a plugin to measure things in aerial view?
Hi

I am using version 7.2. Then I have to find out how to create dimensions in the 3D view.

Posted by Puybaret at Feb 17, 2024, 1:40:50 PM
Re: Is there a plugin to measure things in aerial view?
Follow the link in my previous answer.
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Posted by MartinH81 at Feb 17, 2024, 2:20:57 PM
Re: Is there a plugin to measure things in aerial view?
Oh sorry, I was imprecise.

Look here:


I have a few dormers, but no side wall for them. An the walls/sides/whatever have the shape of a triangle, but not a perpendicular one. And I do not know the measures and also I cannot get them from the pane with the view from above. But I see the open dormers in the 3D aerial view. What I meant was, if I could some set points there in order to get the measures.

Posted by Daniels118 at Feb 17, 2024, 5:13:43 PM
Re: Is there a plugin to measure things in aerial view?
I would suggest the 3D dimension lines plugin, it allows to measure the distance between generic points in space.

Posted by Keet at Feb 17, 2024, 6:14:17 PM
Re: Is there a plugin to measure things in aerial view?
I have a few dormers, but no side wall for them. An the walls/sides/whatever have the shape of a triangle, but not a perpendicular one. And I do not know the measures and also I cannot get them from the pane with the view from above. But I see the open dormers in the 3D aerial view. What I meant was, if I could some set points there in order to get the measures.
You do have references for the points, but it will require some calculating to get the exact points.
For example your dormer roof has a size and position. Using those numbers you can calculate the dormer-roof bottom-corners on one side (front and back) and it's elevation. That are two points you need, these are the right side top line of the wall.
The front bottom point you can calculate using the dormer front wall. And the back lower point depends on where you want it. Close to the back top point?
When you have those 4 points you can use the Generate 3D Shape tool. Use the 4 points you have for 6,7,2,3 and use the same points but a wall thickness to the left for the other points. That should give you the wall you need. And as long as you don't quit Sweet Home 3D the last numbers will be preserved so that when you start the tool again the numbers are still there. That is convenient when you decide to change one or more points.
The funny thing is that if you entered the numbers you got from the house the shape will be generated in the place where it was calculated from.
You don't have to be very precise since it's no problem if a little of the top sticks inside the dormer roof, as long as it doesn't stick out above.

Some points to get you started:
Take the dormer roof. It's an object so it has an X/Y position for its center and an elevation (Z).
point 7: The right front bottom corner is X+(half the roof width), Y+(half the roof depth), Z = the elavation.
point 6: The right back bottom corner is X-(half the roof width), Y-(half the roof depth), Z = elavation+(roof height-roof thicknes)
point 3: same X and Y as point 7, for Z you place a little box iside the dormer where the wall must start. Change it's height until you get to the point where the top of the box is where you want the bottom of the wall to start. That height is your Z.
point 2: X is the same as point 6 but with a little lower Z.

For the other points use the same values but decrease the X value with the wall thickness you want.

It does sound kind of complex but when you dive into it it's not so bad. You can see the preview of the shape in the generator so you can see what it looks like and adjust where you think it is needed.
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Posted by MartinH81 at Feb 17, 2024, 6:15:05 PM
Re: Is there a plugin to measure things in aerial view?
Sounds good, but where do I get it? At least I do not see it at http://www.sweethome3d.com/plugins.jsp

Posted by Keet at Feb 17, 2024, 6:25:33 PM
Re: Is there a plugin to measure things in aerial view?
The second one in the list or through this page: http://www.sweethome3d.com/support/forum/viewthread_thread,6600
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Posted by MartinH81 at Feb 17, 2024, 8:15:43 PM
Re: Is there a plugin to measure things in aerial view?
Hi Keet

1. Thanks for your explaination and
2. this was a funny misunderstanding. We kind of wrote at the same time and my question for the plugin concerned Daniels118's comment about the 3D dimension lines plugin. :)

Posted by Keet at Feb 17, 2024, 8:39:14 PM
Re: Is there a plugin to measure things in aerial view?
You should install the Plugin Manager: https://sourceforge.net/p/sweethome3d/plug-ins/44/?page=1#23da
The most recent version is 1.5.3.
After install it will update itself and you can install, remove, and update other plugins much easier.
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Posted by MartinH81 at Feb 18, 2024, 9:07:05 AM
Re: Is there a plugin to measure things in aerial view?
This looks good. Where does this manager get its plugin sources from? I mean, when it is a central point to find plugins, then it will aggregate from more sources than the sh3d homepage. And who checks that the plugins from other sources do not contain any malicious code? Just want to be on the secure side.

Posted by Keet at Feb 18, 2024, 9:50:07 AM
Re: Is there a plugin to measure things in aerial view?
The plugins come from Daniele's website http://daniels118.altervista.org where the plugin manager is hosted. I'm not sure if there are mirrors, I'll let Daniele (the developer) explain that.
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Posted by dorin at Feb 18, 2024, 7:06:09 PM
Re: Is there a plugin to measure things in aerial view?
You could choose what ever solution which fit your needs.
My opinion from what I've seen you need only some sloping walls to fill the gaps under the sloping roofs of the dormers.
Probably you also want some triangular space (holes) at the base of this sloping walls.
You could see this how_to_create_a_hole_at_the_bottom_of_a_wall
Usually I don't replace a wall or a room with other objects if is not strictly necessary.
For calculations you could read and use this Space under roof .
For only the vertical dimensions now you could use the actual elevation dimension line. In the past I've used a vertical ruler.
If you need some other kind of measurement (inclined) you don't have another tool than 3D Dimensions provided by Daniels118.
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Posted by Daniels118 at Feb 18, 2024, 9:33:00 PM
Re: Is there a plugin to measure things in aerial view?
The plugin manager reads the list of the available plugins from my own website. The website hosts just the list of the plugins (along with some details such as description, available languages, and so on), while the plugins binaries are hosted on sweethome3d.com or sourceforge.com. The list is downloaded from the following url that you can see (and change) from the settings of the plugin manager:
https://daniels118.altervista.org/sh3d/pluginmanager/plugins.xml

Any plugin developer can get an account on my website to manage his own plugins, BUT the binaries MUST be hosted on sweethome3d.com (official plugins made by PUYBARET) or sourceforge.com (3rd parties), there is no chance that they come from other sources. Actually there are just 2 developers (other than me) who maintain their plugins, the rest is managed by me.

About security, the plugins that you download using the plugin manager are as secure as the ones that you may download from the respective sources.
The real question should be: how can I trust a software that I haven't written with my own hands? Who tells me that the plugin, the main software, or even the operating system I'm working on, don't send my credit card numbers to the developer? There are 2 cases:
- With proprietary software, the assurance comes from the fact that the organization that sell the software can be pursued by law if developers put malicious code in their software, so large organizations tend to make internal security controls on the software they release.
- With open source software, any person capable of reading the code can check if the software contains malicious code. Of course, such people should check that the compiled binaries distributed don't contain hidden code that isn't shown in the released sources. People that aren't able to read the code should count on the fact that others could have done this before. Moreover, a developer who wants to spread malicois code won't be so stupid to put his real name and his face on the web, so if you can check the identity of the account that distributes the software, he is most likely acting good.

By the way, I can assure that my programs have no malicous code and I have great respect for privacy, but I give no guarantee about the other plugins downloaded through the plugin manager. I make no security check on the plugins made by other developers, you install them at your own risk (sounds ugly, but that's the truth).

My recommendations are:
- never run software that you don't trust with admin privileges;
- use a good antivirus.

Posted by Keet at Feb 19, 2024, 10:43:33 AM
Re: Is there a plugin to measure things in aerial view?
If you want a mirror for the plugins.xml PM me.
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Posted by MartinH81 at Feb 19, 2024, 11:46:55 AM
Re: Is there a plugin to measure things in aerial view?
Thank you all!