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Posted by Oldmanwheeler at Mar 9, 2014, 3:29:13 AM

Slope lot front to back
I'm working on a Ranch with a walkout basement. How do you slop the landscape so that both the front of the house and the lower level patio door are both at ground level? Thanks

Posted by hansmex at Mar 9, 2014, 10:14:39 AM

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Insert a very large triangle...?

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Posted by okh at Mar 9, 2014, 8:18:14 PM

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Yes, one very large or several (triangles and boxes), placed around the house (to avoid having the triangle in your basement).

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Posted by Oldmanwheeler at Mar 14, 2014, 3:34:08 PM

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I appreciate the help but could one of you give me a little more detail on what you mean by large triangle? Around the house? Next to the house? Main level or lower level? direction of the triangle? etc... I've never gone this far in developing a plan so I need more details on how to do this. Thanks again for the help.

Posted by okh at Mar 14, 2014, 5:45:56 PM

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I sent you an example. Didn't you get it? If you look at that model, it contains a base-level. I placed two triangles, one on each side of the house and a box behind to create the slope. But you can obviously elaborate on that example - and stretch and resize to your liking.

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Posted by Oldmanwheeler at Mar 14, 2014, 7:39:17 PM

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ooh, I may be blend but I don't see the example. That would certainly help. Could you email it to me at [email protected]? Thanks for your help

Posted by Oldmanwheeler at Mar 14, 2014, 7:39:59 PM

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ooh, I may be blend but I don't see the example. That would certainly help. Could you email it to me at [email protected]? Thanks for your help

Posted by Oldmanwheeler at Mar 14, 2014, 7:41:51 PM

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ooh, I may be blend but I don't see the example. That would certainly help. Could you email it to me at [email protected]? Thanks for your help

Posted by okh at Mar 14, 2014, 8:12:04 PM

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Sent you two. Let me know if you don't receive it. I would usually do a more accurate terrain, but the two examples show what you can do with triangles and boxes. Good luck.

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Posted by HArismendi at Mar 24, 2014, 2:56:54 PM

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Hi,

Would you please send me the example of boxes and triangles. Thanks in advance

Posted by okh at Mar 25, 2014, 11:15:56 AM

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..please send me the example of boxes and triangles.

Might as well upload as a Sourceforge ticket (299).

Example files to give an illustration of usage:
- template_scandinavian.sh3d
- geo_sample.sh3d

This is pretty basic geometry (no copyright on triangles and boxes) and some stretching and resizing will be necessary to achieve the desired effect - and normally the use of several SH3D levels. So far these models have covered most of needs so far, but please let me know if other elements could be of use.

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Posted by macfrog at Mar 30, 2014, 10:05:16 PM

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Hello,

maybe this illustration will help. It's been a similar problem, ot quite exactly what you might need but i think you'll get the idea:

look from here

greets

Posted by maxmaia at Aug 19, 2014, 10:29:59 AM

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On this forum I could find excelent ideas and I'd like to thank you for all contributions.

I have in mind one type of slope ground, which graphically can be represented as:

.1m --------------- 2m
..\.................|
...\................|
....\...............|
... 0m -------------1m

Hopefully my drawing will be displayed correctly. I put on the corners also the heights of slope (eg. 1m = 1 meter).

Can you please tell me if this slope ground can be made using triangles, and if yes, I'd appreciate your advices and help.

Thanks.

Posted by okh at Aug 19, 2014, 2:35:33 PM

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Yes, it can. But you may have to combine several triangles and boxes. Especially if you have a basement (a level below ground) it may take some work and clever use of triangles. ok

Posted by maxmaia at Aug 19, 2014, 3:33:56 PM

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Yes, it can. But you may have to combine several triangles and boxes. Especially if you have a basement (a level below ground) it may take some work and clever use of triangles. ok

Thanks for feedback.

If is possible please describe in couple of steps what needs to be done.

I've tried to build tringle objects, but with no luck as the ground elevation is different in each tringle point.

Many thanks.

Posted by okh at Aug 19, 2014, 6:27:19 PM

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A couple of steps is perhaps optimistic smile

- Will you have a basement?
(If so you need the exact outline and placement of the building)
- What are the dimensions of the sides?
- What is the height of the middle?

You can do a lot with the triangles found in the Sourceforge ticket (299), mentioned above. But maybe not all. The Scandinavian template is probably closest.

If you send me an e-mail that I can reply to with attachment, I can have look (please, include dimensions of terrain and maybe house outline).

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Posted by maxmaia at Aug 20, 2014, 8:20:21 AM

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Thanks, I sent you a mail with the ground format I'm looking for.

Posted by okh at Aug 20, 2014, 9:26:52 AM

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Looked at it and sent you a possible solution: adding a surface (model). Hope that works. Good luck. ok

Posted by okh at Aug 20, 2014, 10:10:16 AM

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1m --------------- 2m
..\.................|
...\................|
....\...............|
... 0m -------------1m

Actually, there is a way of creating such terrain with SH3D.

Draw the terrain outline as thin walls with accurate wall heights that match the elevation of the terrain.
Double-click with room tool to create a room inside the walls.
Disable Display floor but check Display ceiling.
Select the room and Export selection to .obj format.
Import the .obj file and select Invert back and front faces in the second step (until you do, it seems invisible).
Disable magnetism and move the surface into position, add ground texture etc. etc.

This will work for relatively simple terrains, but has the disadvantage of being a permanent surface that does not cut automatically (so it will be visible in a basement). Also, be careful not to make the "room" too complicated as SH3D will reach a point where the ceilings cannot be calculated accurately - and then it will not work. But, of course, you can make several elements and join them if you are patient.

But if the terrain is complicated, it is probably easier to use a 3D modeling software.

ok

Posted by maxmaia at Aug 20, 2014, 10:31:34 AM

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Excellent.
Great work with simple steps!

Thanks again!

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