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| Posted by mliberatore at Oct 7, 2014, 10:16:47 PM |
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Tiny display in Win 8.1 I successfully installed Sweet Home 3d on my new Surface Pro 3 tablet (Win 8.1). When SH3D is launched, the entire application displays with very small text. Also, the furniture pallet is squished together and unreadable. Is there a propertied file somewhere that controls this behavior that I can modify? Sorry, I couldn't attach the screen grab image. I got a pop up with a URL rather than a browser for a file. Won't let me paste into the message body either. |
| Posted by mliberatore at Oct 9, 2014, 1:07:52 PM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 I found an article on Windows 8.1 that describes the problem almost exactly. Apparently Windows applies scaling to certain programs automatically. This is exactly what's happening. The text from one line is enlarged to overlap the next, rendering all lines unreadable. Their instructions were to go to the properties of the executable and select the compatibility tab. Then toggle the option "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings". I tried it but it didn't fix the issue. In every available resolution setting for my screen, all the way down to 1024 x 768, the display of Sweet Home 3D is exactly the same. The application is simply unusable. |
| Posted by okh at Oct 9, 2014, 3:08:11 PM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 This does not happen on the Asus Transformer Book T100, also a Win 8.1 tablet, albeit with a different hardware configuration, see thread 5137 about the Asus. And has not happened on other Win 7 / 8 / 8.1 PCs I have tried. But there have been some issues with the Surface Pro see thread 4140 and thread 4225. Maybe there are other Surface Pro users who could shed light on the mysteries of this (until now, appealing) little machine? ok |
| Posted by mliberatore at Oct 29, 2014, 1:46:21 PM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 Sorry. I have really tried to make this work. Uninstalling the Microsoft certified drivers and installing the Intel drivers was a pain. Did nothing for this problem. Uninstalled and used generic Microsoft drivers. Same issue. Took a wide detour and installed Hyper-V and Windows 7. Unable to make it run at all there. Still appears dependent on the host OS somehow. The best I can determine is there is a problem with either Direct-X or Open-GL that is causing this problem. By the way, it does the same thing with the online version of SH3D. Simply can't use the product at all. Very disappointing. I can get other floor plan software to run, but I prefer SH3D, if it would only display in a usable way. |
| Posted by Puybaret at Jul 20, 2015, 11:39:14 AM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 Forcing Java Metal Look and Feel should help, because it lets you choose the font size of a Java application. To test this solution, run notepad.exe or another text editor, copy the following text (possibly changing the 30 number by a different size) -Dswing.defaultlaf=javax.swing.plaf.metal.MetalLookAndFeel and save it in a file named SweetHome3D.l4j.ini (pay caution to the .ini extension) in the folder where Sweet Home 3D is installed (probably C:\Program Files\Sweet Home 3D). If you can't save it in this folder because of restricted access, save it on your desktop then move it in Sweet Home 3D installation folder afterwards. Once done, restart Sweet Home 3D. Please, tell us which size works the best because it could interest other users. [Note: I updated the size to 30 from following user comments. Thanks for your feedback!] ---------------------------------------- Emmanuel Puybaret, Sweet Home 3D creator |
| Posted by mliberatore at Jul 30, 2015, 2:37:43 PM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 Thank you all for trying to help. None of the above helped. After installing version 5 today, at least the overlapping issue is resolved. The application is now usable on low resolution settings or a big screen. It appears, as I suspected, to have been related to the version of Java. The former version was very old. I have also upgraded to Windows 10. The display is still very small on my Surface Pro 3, and there is no preference in the application to set the font size of the app itself. That's really an oversight and I'll submit a feature request. Thank you all again! |
| Posted by mliberatore at Jul 30, 2015, 2:49:16 PM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 Actually, I retried Puybaret's fix above and it works now! It didn't make any difference at all before, but I am now able to set the text size to 30 and it is perfect! Thank you so much! |
| Posted by miekemook at Aug 6, 2015, 8:50:58 AM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 I am having the same problem with Windows 10. Made the text file as suggested by Puybaret but I cannot find the ini file in the C:\programfiles\sweethome 3D file. Any other suggestion? |
| Posted by Puybaret at Aug 6, 2015, 11:52:37 AM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 The ini file doesn't exist. It's up to you to create it if you need one. ---------------------------------------- Emmanuel Puybaret, Sweet Home 3D creator |
| Posted by miekemook at Aug 7, 2015, 4:59:06 AM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 I use Windows 10 and have exact the same problem. I made the text file but cannot find the ini file as is described? What else can be done or how can the ini file be missing? |
| Posted by miekemook at Aug 7, 2015, 5:12:31 AM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 I did copy and paste the lines of code in a note-pad file. Saved the file as an ini file since I copied and pasted the name you gave in the text. Copied the ini file into c:/programfiles/sweethome 3D and than restarted the program. unfortunately still the same result: the fonts are to small and the text is overlaying. |
| Posted by miekemook at Aug 7, 2015, 5:29:32 AM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 I installed the program on a windows 7 laptop and everything is working fine. Seems to be a windows 10 problem. |
| Posted by mliberatore at Aug 7, 2015, 11:32:10 AM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 You create the file, name it correctly, paying particular attention to the file name extension, and save it to your desktop. Close the file then copy it to the folder. If you don't know where you saved the file open your text editor and look for the file in recent documents then do a "save as". Pay attention to where you're placing the file. |
| Posted by musaji at Oct 8, 2015, 2:13:20 AM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 Just downloaded the app to create a floor plan for the house I want to build. Came across the font size issue on my windows 10 laptop (has 2k resolution). Thanks for the fix using the .ini file. I used font size 30. When you save the file in notepad, make sure to name it using double quotes. It will make sure to preserve the .ini extension, otherwise, notepad will add .txt extension to you filename. Hope it helps & thanks for the fix. |
| Posted by csi_bern at Nov 3, 2015, 9:20:51 PM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 Hi, thanks to Puybaret, the patch is working ... for the text. Do you have an other for the icones? Merci (bon programme au fait) |
| Posted by HawkDawg at Nov 3, 2015, 10:29:32 PM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 When you write the text file you have to save it as .ini, not .txt. ---------------------------------------- Hawk |
| Posted by Puybaret at Nov 4, 2015, 7:34:30 AM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 Hawk, I think csi_bern succeeded to make his SweetHome3D.l4j.ini file work, but this solution doesn't show icons at a larger size. csi_bern, if you know a little about Java, please see this thread and the patch proposed here. It should help until Oracle proposes a solution. ---------------------------------------- Emmanuel Puybaret, Sweet Home 3D creator |
| Posted by csi_bern at Nov 4, 2015, 7:55:40 AM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 Hi there, Yes, that's exactly my problem. I know a bit about Java, but I don't want to broke everything by doing something wrong. Further, I don't have time today to try it. Since I have my new computer, I've also a similar problem with Adobe CS6. I found a full working solution there:link . I've try it quickly yesterday at home with Sweet Home 3D, but it doesn't work. It was probably my mistake as I've done the manifest for a EXE file and not a Java file. Will it work with the good extension? Thanks again for this great software |
| Posted by Puybaret at Feb 20, 2016, 8:44:49 AM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 The new version 5.2 proposes a new solution for HiDPI screens. I would be very happy to hear what you think about it. ---------------------------------------- Emmanuel Puybaret, Sweet Home 3D creator |
| Posted by Puybaret at Mar 8, 2016, 5:38:30 PM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 From the feedback of two users, it looks like that the HiDPI Java Web Start version works correctly, but if you use the installer of version 5.2, setting com.eteks.sweethome3d.resolutionScale value in SweetHome3D.l4j.ini file might not be enough and still give incorrect results. If it's the case, you might have to reset the fonts size too, adding for example the 4 last lines of the following example in SweetHome3D.l4j.ini file: -Dcom.eteks.sweethome3d.resolutionScale=2.5---------------------------------------- Emmanuel Puybaret, Sweet Home 3D creator |
| Posted by adlerhn at Jul 7, 2016, 1:22:45 AM |
Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1-Dcom.eteks.sweethome3d.resolutionScale=2.5That works beautifully! I had set -Dcom.eteks.sweethome3d.resolutionScale=2, but some fonts were huge. I have now set the other parameters as suggested (keeping resolutionScale=2 though), and everything looks great. |
| Posted by hds at Jul 11, 2016, 4:41:28 PM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 Is there a solution for the online version? I have a 4K lapop screen... |
| Posted by mtm216 at Sep 11, 2016, 12:38:25 AM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 Just to say that on Windows 10 on a Surface book I had the same issue, but this .ini file fix worked perfectly - Thanks |
| Posted by Gavinx at Dec 10, 2016, 1:40:43 PM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 I am running a Lenovo Yoga and am having the problems mentioned above. After applying the SweetHome3D.l4j.ini fix I got some relief. Everything displays correctly except for the list of furniture items used in the plan - which is displayed as a list in the lower left panel of the screen. This list is scrunched up. Is there a fix for this? Thanks |
| Posted by Miker777 at Jan 8, 2017, 5:23:10 PM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 Hi. I made this change to sh3d and must say the text size is much better for me, but, if i open - close - reopen a separate function, eg, photo or create shape, each time i open it the text size enlarges until it becomes unusuable, any idea why this would be. Thanks Mike |
| Posted by Miker777 at Jan 8, 2017, 5:46:58 PM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 Images might explain it better. Normal |
| Posted by rajeshdave at Jan 12, 2017, 10:02:16 AM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 Hi, Solve the Problem thanks a lot is there any way to make the tools icons look bigger Thank you |
| Posted by Puybaret at Jan 18, 2017, 12:12:08 PM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 Mike, I found the bug you reported. It will be fixed in the next version. Thanks for reporting it  ---------------------------------------- Emmanuel Puybaret, Sweet Home 3D creator |
| Posted by Miker777 at Jan 18, 2017, 6:17:53 PM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 Your the man  Sorry i keep finding them  |
| Posted by Puybaret at Jan 18, 2017, 7:11:23 PM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 Sorry i keep finding them As long as you report them (gently), it's not a problem! ---------------------------------------- Emmanuel Puybaret, Sweet Home 3D creator |
| Posted by Puybaret at Jan 31, 2017, 1:59:58 PM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 The bug reported by Miker777 was fixed in version 5.4. ---------------------------------------- Emmanuel Puybaret, Sweet Home 3D creator |
| Posted by pixelhunter at Mar 15, 2017, 8:38:38 AM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 Thank you so much this solution worked flawlessly!  |
| Posted by rhawke at Sep 21, 2017, 5:43:42 PM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 Thanks, this helped with the fonts. Is there a way to get the icons larger as well? My new 14" laptop with 2560x1440 resolution on Windows 10 (scaled to 175%) is giving me quite some headaches with various programs. |
| Posted by Puybaret at Sep 22, 2017, 2:25:11 PM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 Did you try the solution with 5 properties or a simpler one? ---------------------------------------- Emmanuel Puybaret, Sweet Home 3D creator |
| Posted by Puybaret at Sep 22, 2017, 2:32:28 PM |
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Re: Tiny display in Win 8.1 By the way, the new Java 9 should have come with a solution for HiDPI screens. When you have time, I would be pleased to read how the program behaves in your case: just install JRE 9, download Sweet Home 3D Executable JAR and double-click on it to run the program. ---------------------------------------- Emmanuel Puybaret, Sweet Home 3D creator |
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