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| Posted by enkonyito at Feb 6, 2016, 2:43:35 AM |
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Progress and time of photo rendering Hi, This derived version of Sweet Home 3D allows to view the progress and the time of photo rendering. It also includes some differences with the standard version. Info: jar (0.2 GB max) , exe (0.6 GB max) ---------------------------------------- EnkoNyito |
| Posted by santbose at Mar 7, 2016, 5:50:48 AM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering it would be very nice if we could get it for SH3D 5.2 also. Thanks in advance |
| Posted by santbose at Mar 7, 2016, 5:55:18 AM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering I downloaded the exe, but it says that it may harm the computer. |
| Posted by hansmex at Mar 7, 2016, 6:21:07 AM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering Enkonyito, This is GREAT. Would love to see this in the official version!! Hans ---------------------------------------- Hans new website - under constuction hansdirkse.info |
| Posted by enkonyito at Mar 7, 2016, 4:46:38 PM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering I downloaded the exe, but it says that it may harm the computer. santbose, it is a simple warning message but there is no installation.This is GREAT. Would love to see this in the official version!! hansmex, it will be surely possible someday...Meantime, this photo plug-in also allows to view the progress and the rendering time.  ---------------------------------------- EnkoNyito |
| Posted by santbose at Mar 9, 2016, 5:51:12 AM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering I just downloaded and used the photo plug-in. It is really impressive. But can we select the rendering engine or is it constant. Does it work with the advanced photo rendering settings also. One more, if it could give the total time required to render the scene, it would be great. Asking too much though. :) |
| Posted by enkonyito at Mar 9, 2016, 10:11:20 PM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering Version 1.0 of the plug-in that was renamed uses the same rendering engine as the photo creation pane integrated in Sweet Home 3D. It is therefore compatible with the advanced settings. ---------------------------------------- EnkoNyito |
| Posted by hansmex at Mar 10, 2016, 7:45:43 AM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering Enko, I have now installed SH3D v5.2a, as well as Advanced Settings for Photo Rendering 1.3, and Advanced Photo Rendering 1.0. When I render a picture using Create Photo, I can see the large "pixels" in the rendering preview, showing me that this is the original SH3D render engine using the "new" 64 pixel buckets. When I change the settings using Tools -> Advanced Settings of Photo Rendering, SH3D still uses the SH3D render engine, because I can see the large "pixels". However, when I use Tools -> Advanced Photo Rendering a new render window opens which uses the older, smaller buckets and renders in lines, instead of a spiral. I can even render two images at the same time. Question: would it be possible to make the plug-in use the "officially" installed version of SH3D, so that the timer plug-in just adds the timer to the original version of SH3D? The reason for this request is that Windows 10 overwrites the previouw version(s) of SH3D, and allows only the latest version. Previously I used Ubuntu, and there I had 5-10 versions of SH3D on my computer side by side, so that I could easily switch from one version to the other. No doubt this can be done in W10 also, it's just too complicated for my simple mind. Hans ---------------------------------------- Hans new website - under constuction hansdirkse.info |
| Posted by enkonyito at Mar 10, 2016, 6:44:59 PM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering CreatePhotoWithRenderer-1.0.sh3p is now available on SourceForge. ---------------------------------------- 
CreatePhotoWithRenderer-1.0.sh3p
(105091 bytes)
(Download count: 249)
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| Posted by enkonyito at Mar 10, 2016, 9:03:10 PM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering Hans, As mentioned in this thread , a plug-in can not modify a program interface. That is why you have found these differences and I did not use the same Sunflow configuration (buckets order, buckets size, etc...). Perhaps by making a request, the progress and rendering time will be included in the original program. ---------------------------------------- EnkoNyito |
| Posted by Puybaret at Mar 11, 2016, 9:25:30 AM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering If you want to update the plug-in on SourceForge.net, just edit your initial comment there and delete the existing attachement and add a new one. Don't you have access to these tools? By the way, thanks for trying to improve the existing renderer, but could you give some details about what you changed? Please add some comments in your source files with GNU GPL headers and notices about the changes you made compared to original source files? The section 2 of this license states how you should proceed when you make some changes to some existing source code. I'm not convinced about the progress bar in Sweet Home 3D photo creation tool, mainly because it will hardly give precise results. As soon as the Sunflow is working on rendering glasses, you know that it takes much longer and you can't guess it. I know that the the progress bar in Sweet Home 3D video creation tool is not precise too, but it was added there first for user's feedback purpose, whereas in the photo creation tool, the feedback is already shown with the buckets. ---------------------------------------- Emmanuel Puybaret, Sweet Home 3D creator |
| Posted by hansmex at Mar 11, 2016, 10:53:51 AM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering When making test renders, people tend to compare the time one test takes with the time of another test. Especially in Q4, rendering can take a long time. Longer than one is willing to wait and watch the screen to time the duration. A built-in timer would give the time, while people can make coffee, take a shower or go shopping. H ---------------------------------------- Hans new website - under constuction hansdirkse.info |
| Posted by enkonyito at Mar 12, 2016, 7:37:29 PM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering Emmanuel, On SourceForge, I can only edit comments in discussion. Information about the GNU GPL license and the changes made to the SH3D source code have been added to the plug-in Java sources. Compared to the original photo panel, the plug-in allows : - a display of buckets in row with the same visual size regardless of the image width - ceiling lights a little less dazzling and sometimes centered differently - rendering aerial view identical to that in virtual visit - a reduced number of samples in global illumination "path" For sure the buckets gives an idea of the progress but the progress bar can also be useful for an ipr rendering. The elapsed time is a further indication even if the estimated remaining time is less accurate. ---------------------------------------- EnkoNyito |
| Posted by Puybaret at Mar 13, 2016, 11:02:45 PM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering I renamed the ticket of this plug-in for you. Thanks for the comments in SunflowRenderer.java and AdvancedPhotoPanel.java classes showing the changes you made. Just one missing thing for next time: you should mention where these classes come from, and add the original @author tags of these classes. The idea behind these requirements is that anybody who wants to keep track of the changes you made should be able to find your sources. ---------------------------------------- Emmanuel Puybaret, Sweet Home 3D creator |
| Posted by enkonyito at Mar 14, 2016, 8:46:45 PM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering Thanks for the change on SourceForge. I have added a link to the source file and the name of the original author. Version 1.1 displays the estimated remaining time for Sunflow renderer. ---------------------------------------- EnkoNyito |
| Posted by enkonyito at Apr 9, 2016, 3:20:39 AM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering (Create photo with renderer plug-in) Version 1.2 has an option to enhance the external brightness for a sky without texture. Option disabled (default)   Option enabled   ---------------------------------------- EnkoNyito |
| Posted by hansmex at Apr 9, 2016, 7:37:26 AM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering (Create photo with renderer plug-in) Thank you. I tested it under Ubuntu 14.04 and it works fine. Hans ---------------------------------------- Hans new website - under constuction hansdirkse.info |
| Posted by santbose at Apr 12, 2016, 9:27:37 AM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering (Create photo with renderer plug-in) I also tried it. It works fine. But if this was also available where the sky is with texture, then it would have been wonderful |
| Posted by mazoola at Apr 13, 2016, 12:18:03 PM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering (Create photo with renderer plug-in) But if this was also available where the sky is with texture, then it would have been wonderful. Unfortunately, this is a limitation of the SunFlow rendering engine, which handles skies with and without textures differently. |
| Posted by enkonyito at Apr 15, 2016, 3:26:31 AM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering (Create photo with renderer plug-in) Santbose, As said Mazoola, Sunflow uses different types of light for a sky without texture (SunSkyLight) and a sky with texture (ImageBasedLight). Although they have a parameter that seems common, rendering for a sky with texture depends on the image used (example: blue sky or cloudy sky). Option disabled   Option enabled   ---------------------------------------- EnkoNyito |
| Posted by alaX at Jun 24, 2016, 2:30:16 PM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering (Create photo with renderer plug-in) enkonyito, Your plug-in is great but I encountered some issues. 1) When "Apply proportions" is set to "3d view", changing image width to any value always makes height = 2,147,483,647; new height value makes width = 0. Switching back from "Square", "4/3" and other proportions presets (that work fine) also causes this unwanted effect. If I want my image to keep proportions of 3d view but I need to change size I have to do it via standard "Create photo" window. 2) "Create photo with renderer" window doesn't fit to my screen height(1024x600px) - I don't see "Create", "Save" and "Close" buttons, even if I move or hide task bar. I use Tab key but I have to carefully count hits to avoid accidental skipping "Save" button when I'm finally satisfied with my image. screenshot I would be grateful for fixing it. |
| Posted by enkonyito at Jun 25, 2016, 11:42:53 PM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering (Create photo with renderer plug-in) alax, 1) When "Apply proportions" is set to "3d view", changing image width to any value always makes height = 2,147,483,647; new height value makes width = 0. I can not reproduce it even by displaying the 3D view in a separate window. Is this occasional or systematic? Have others met the same kind of problem? 2) "Create photo with renderer" window doesn't fit to my screen height(1024x600px) - I don't see "Create", "Save" and "Close" buttons, even if I move or hide task bar. This will be fixed in the next version of the plugin that will be soon available. ---------------------------------------- EnkoNyito |
| Posted by alaX at Jun 26, 2016, 6:07:14 PM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering (Create photo with renderer plug-in) Thanks for reply. I can not reproduce it even by displaying the 3D view in a separate window. Is this occasional or systematic? - With 3D view docked (in main window) everything works fine. - When I open "CPwR" first and then detach 3D view - it also works fine. - Problem occurs every time I open "CPwR" when 3D view window is already floating(in my case - almost all the time). What I forgot to mention in my previous post - resizing this floating 3D view window manually(dragging edges) makes no changes to width and height fields in "CPwR". Have others met the same kind of problem? Apparently, only me and I have met this problem - it happens on my both laptops - WinXP and Win7(32-bit).This will be fixed in the next version of the plugin that will be soon available.  |
| Posted by enkonyito at Jun 28, 2016, 12:29:24 AM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering (Create photo with renderer plug-in) - Problem occurs every time I open "CPwR" when 3D view window is already floating(in my case - almost all the time). What I forgot to mention in my previous post - resizing this floating 3D view window manually(dragging edges) makes no changes to width and height fields in "CPwR". By following your procedure, I was able to test the bug and find a solution. ---------------------------------------- EnkoNyito |
| Posted by alaX at Jun 28, 2016, 11:47:28 PM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering (Create photo with renderer plug-in) That's great! You're the man! |
| Posted by enkonyito at Jul 2, 2016, 8:58:04 PM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering (Create photo with renderer plug-in) Version 1.3 - Added advanced settings for rendering properties - Enhancement option to external brightness (sky with or without texture) - Fixed a 3D view management bug in a separate window - Fixed a photo panel resizing bug for small screens - Other minor fixes and improvements ---------------------------------------- EnkoNyito |
| Posted by enkonyito at Jul 13, 2016, 4:42:16 PM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering (Create photo with renderer plug-in) In case of problems with previous links (unavailability of sourceforge), use the one attached. ----------------------------------------
CreatePhotoWithRenderer-1.3.1.sh3p
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(Download count: 282)
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| Posted by danger89 at Sep 1, 2016, 11:33:53 PM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering (Create photo with renderer plug-in) I had a lot of issues with the default render engine, especially the quality of the image (yes I disable ceiling lights and add lights myself) .. I got strange art-effects, white spots, dark spots -> know issues, never get fixed. I really couldn't found any solution. Exporting & importing to Blender is an alternative way, but way to complicated for now. . Until I found this plugin. Although I have still strange white spots with this plugin :(. It could because of my chandelier (lot of glass)... |
| Posted by danger89 at Sep 1, 2016, 11:40:57 PM |
Re: Progress and time of photo rendering (Create photo with renderer plug-in)In case of problems with previous links (unavailability of sourceforge), use the one attached. Maybe I'm too harsh, I really like that you put effort into the rendering engine. Kudos for that!  Don't get me wrong. But the future could be to switch to a better engine? Like from Blender perhaps.I really like Sweet Home 3D actually, but the render engine should get replaced by a more modern engine using GPU. |
| Posted by enkonyito at Sep 3, 2016, 5:33:26 PM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering (Create photo with renderer plug-in) Although I have still strange white spots with this plugin... This plug-in also uses the default rendering engine.But the future could be to switch to a better engine? Like from Blender perhaps. Change rendering engine means respecting certain conditions for open source software like Sweet Home 3D.---------------------------------------- EnkoNyito |
| Posted by danger89 at Sep 5, 2016, 10:07:05 AM |
Re: Progress and time of photo rendering (Create photo with renderer plug-in)jmonkeyengine ! |
| Posted by Puybaret at Sep 5, 2016, 10:07:27 PM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering (Create photo with renderer plug-in) Is jMonkeyEngine able to generate photorealistic images with ray tracing like Sunflow? ---------------------------------------- Emmanuel Puybaret, Sweet Home 3D creator |
| Posted by danger89 at Sep 5, 2016, 11:52:08 PM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering (Create photo with renderer plug-in) Yea, I guess: https://github.com/jMonkeyEngine/jmonkeyengin...t/collision/RayTrace.java |
| Posted by danger89 at Sep 6, 2016, 12:07:29 AM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering (Create photo with renderer plug-in) I mean Sunflow's last update is from 2007.... You could also use YafaRay with their XML interface: http://www.yafaray.org/ http://www.yafaray.org/development/documentation/XMLspecs Or use POV-Ray: http://www.povray.org/ Apparently an API is already there/possible: https://platform.netbeans.org/tutorials/nbm-povray-5.html Or Blender (by using their Python interface..jython?): http://blender.org/ Just think about it, a new render system would definitely boost sweet home 3d to the next level! |
| Posted by enkonyito at Sep 15, 2016, 3:34:21 PM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering (Create photo with renderer plug-in) Version 1.3.2 - Fixed a switching issue between aerial view and virtual visit [Note from moderator: updated link upon request of enkonyito] ---------------------------------------- EnkoNyito |
| Posted by nzlemming at Sep 26, 2016, 1:33:21 AM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering (Create photo with renderer plug-in) That actually looks pretty damn nifty. If I had any programming chops, I'd give it a whirl.  Documentation at https://jmonkeyengine.github.io/wiki/ |
| Posted by enkonyito at Jan 26, 2019, 2:20:50 AM |
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Re: Progress and time of photo rendering (Create photo with renderer plug-in) This old plug-in is now part of the new PhotoVideoRendering plug-in . You have to choose the action Simple photo rendering. ---------------------------------------- EnkoNyito |
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