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Posted by enkonyito at Nov 19, 2016, 4:37:44 PM

Photo-video rendering plug-in
This new plug-in groups together in a specific menu the old plug-ins linked to rendering.
It consists of:
- Simple photo rendering (replaces Create photo with renderer)
- Multiple photo rendering (replaces Multiple rendering)
- Video rendering
- Rendering properties (replaces Advanced settings of photo rendering)

Simple photo rendering also allows:
- display the progress in percentage
- display the elapsed time and estimated remaining time
- enhance the external brightness (at the 2 best quality levels)
- view/edit the advanced settings (at the 2 best quality levels)

Multiple photo rendering also allows:
- display the progress in percentage (at the 2 best quality levels)
- display the elapsed time
- display the name of the point of view being computed

Video rendering also allows:
- display the progress in percentage
- display the elapsed time
- enhance the external brightness (at the 2 best quality levels)

Rendering properties allows to:
- view/edit the parameters of the rendering engine

The improvements and corrections made to SH3D-5.3 have been taken into account.

The sh3p file with source code is included in the compressed folder.

PhotoVideoRendering-1.0.zip
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Posted by bdfd at Nov 20, 2016, 7:04:08 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
It's a good idea smile

but it's not finished because I saw 2 problems. sad

A. I downloaded the previous Tools R1.3.2 with parameters 1.3.1 in Tools menu.
=> Yesterday, I downloaded the new menu 'Photo-video rendering' and the old menu was always present. crying

Why and how can we delete the old ?

B. Problem in parameters
When I use your new menu 'advanced settings', I cannot change value of DiffusedBounces (1 => 2) !!!
=> With the old menu it is possible. tongue

Is it a regression or just an oblivion ?
=> Can you evolve it ?

I think that with this kind of update, you must have a global vision and don't go too fast and I know that it's not easy... d oh

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Posted by enkonyito at Nov 20, 2016, 3:51:42 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
You must manually remove the plug-ins from the Tools menu if you no longer want to use them.
Help -> About... -> Librairies...
- click on a file in Plug-ins
- close SH3D
- delete the plug-ins

These old plug-ins do not benefit from the improvements and corrections made to SH3D-5.3.
The new plug-in is included in a compressed folder to be replaced more easily in future updates.

As stated here , safeguards have been put in place to avoid any confusion in the interactions between parameters.
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Posted by Miker777 at Nov 20, 2016, 4:14:18 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Hi enkonyito
You may need to explain which to delete for thicko's like me, i just did it, now all i have is the basic photo option, no 131, no advanced options, no enhanced lighting, my bad, but help now needed

Posted by Miker777 at Nov 20, 2016, 4:25:25 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

Posted by Miker777 at Nov 20, 2016, 4:46:49 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Alls well in the world smile

Re-installed AdvancedSettings_PhotoRendering-1.3.1 and CreatePhotoWithRenderer-1.3.2 from HERE and i am sorted. Nice one enkonyito. biggrin

Posted by bdfd at Nov 21, 2016, 5:28:32 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
same thing for me, as enkonyito said, its plugin is adapted for version 5.3, so I installed it and thrown the previous.

But after a try of rendering I must to come back because I saw strange things (Rendering which not answer and don't start,
processor at 91%, ...) ??? crying

I had to report. devilish

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Posted by enkonyito at Mar 31, 2017, 9:54:49 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Version 1.1
- Sky texture visible when rendering in aerial view
- Better definition of shadows for Image Based Light (option "Enhance external brightness" checked)

Examples of IBL rendering.
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Posted by enkonyito at Jul 17, 2017, 8:11:57 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Version 1.2
For video rendering:
- Implicit enhancement of external brightness
- Adding new video formats
- Deleting current recorded camera location
- Automatic saving of video file

Panoramic video (ImageBasedLight)
Panoramic video (SunSkyLight)
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Posted by enkonyito at Jul 19, 2017, 11:04:47 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Although the video file is properly saved and playable, sometimes an error message indicates the contrary. sad

It would seem that the saveVideo method can not be used for direct saving of file.
Changes will be made after the release of SweetHome3D-5.5 to verify compatibility of the plug-in.
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Posted by enkonyito at Sep 11, 2017, 7:02:17 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Version 1.3

Compatible only with SweetHome3D-5.5 and higher
(lights rotation around a horizontal axis)

For video rendering:
- curved line for camera path (circular arc)
- variable speed according to distance

SH3D camera animation
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Posted by enkonyito at Sep 14, 2017, 3:35:30 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
The plug-in supports English and French but it is possible to add other languages based on the ApplicationPlugin_en.properties template.

Based on these instructions , the addition of a language can be done as follows:
1-unzip the PhotoVideoRendering-VERSION.zip file
2-transform the .sh3p into .zip
3-paste your file ApplicationPlugin_LANGUAGE.properties
4-transform the .zip into .sh3p

For any additional language integration directly to the plug-in for future versions, you can contact me .
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ApplicationPlugin_en.properties (4768 bytes) (Download count: 507) (Translation template)

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Posted by enkonyito at Nov 4, 2017, 3:31:28 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Note to translators.

You can translate the label of parameters (rendering properties) by putting your translation in parentheses and separated from the English keyword by a space.
Example:
RenderingPropertiesView.aAminLabel=antiAliasing.min (\u6700 \u5C0F \u9297 \u92F8 \u9F52):

This structure must be respected otherwise the modifications of the parameters will not be taken into account for your translated file.
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Posted by sclee at Nov 5, 2017, 10:16:17 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Thank very much for the help of Enko Nyito, so that the renderer has more choice, I also translated the traditional Chinese and Simplified Chinese,
download: http://sync.hamicloud.net/_oops/scleea/seh

Posted by Geovani141 at Nov 16, 2017, 2:19:33 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
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Sorry, for my English. I have a problem.
I have version 5.6 of the software and I can not create a photo. I click on create photo and it loads but an error appears on the screen, a small icon with an 'x' in the middle. Before I could create photos normally, but now I have this problem. I even formatted my computer to see if it was memory, but it is not. Please help m

Posted by bdfd at Nov 19, 2017, 5:30:07 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
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Posted by Puybaret at Nov 20, 2017, 12:57:31 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Geovani141, this error might happen when the program doesn't have enough RAM to work. Read the FAQ to increase the maximum RAM that Sweet Home 3D can use.
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Posted by enkonyito at Jan 5, 2018, 6:15:09 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Some details about the video rendering.

- curved line for camera path
The curved line path is created automatically when there is a difference in orientation between 2 recorded positions.

- variable speed according to distance
The greater the distance between 2 recorded positions, the faster the movement speed.
Conversely, the shorter the distance, the slower the speed.

Practical tip to see the difference between a straight line path and a curved line path.
You can save your path in the standard video panel and then open the video plugin.
Since the positions recorded are the same, some parts of the path may be curved and the speed different depending on the distance.

At the next version! wink

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Posted by enkonyito at Jan 30, 2018, 1:02:52 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Version 1.4

display a message about plug-in compatibility
display a message when closing a rendering
added a minimum night brightness (dark level 2)
selection, in the simple photo rendering panel, of available LookAndFeels
other minor bugs fixes and enhancements

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Posted by enkonyito at Feb 16, 2018, 2:52:04 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
@Ceciliabr

Just a question: Is it possible to make the image-window wider, f.i. 600px wide? That would be really useful.

Here's how the image display is processed in the default photo panel.

this.photoComponent = new ScaledImageComponent();
this.photoComponent.setPreferredSize(new Dimension(getToolkit().getScreenSize().width <= 1024 ? 320 : 400, 400));

To add additional options, I decreased the size of the image preview and since version 1.4 the size of the panel changes depending on the look and feel chosen.

But to answer your question, yes it is possible to increase the size of the image preview.

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Posted by enkonyito at Feb 16, 2018, 2:55:23 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
@hansmex

Even better: create the possibility to specify the size of the image preview in Preferences... :-)

I will study the feasibility of the thing so as not to complicate the photo panel too much.
Besides, I hesitated to put the option of the choice of look and feel in the preferences if it was possible.
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Posted by Ceciliabr at Feb 16, 2018, 8:56:16 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

Besides, I hesitated to put the option of the choice of look and feel in the preferences if it was possible.

Maybe you could make the plugin-window resizable?
That would meet every individual need,

Cec

Posted by ndorigatti at Feb 16, 2018, 9:37:49 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Heheheh I think it would be though... Java and Swing (programming language and UI components used here) are not the best to support responsive layouts...

I hope it is possible, but I have a few ideas/options for the developer:
- What about changing the Quality bar? we have only 4 options and it is huge, fast and best are taking a lot of space in addition to 1-2-3-4.... Maybe replace 1 and 4 with fast and best and keep 2 and 3 instead of replacing the whole component?

The lookAndFeel (that I did not understand why having that option, but maybe I missed some thread) should be a non frequent option to change (it is less important than picture size or quality, so it could stay in a "secondary" frame like advanced options, why not?
So we could have a new frame with:
Look and feel - Preview Picture Size - Any other option

And, this is completely IMHO, I would put the elapsed time bar under the "Advanced settings / Enhance Brightness" line, just to separate what will change the resulting image and require a stop-create (over that line) and what is modifying in live the UI and the components shown (below the progress bar), like lookandfeel.

Take this as some ideas from a developer that uses SH3D sometimes, and used a lot when planning a new home, so if you think is a stupid idea, feel free to tell it! biggrin

Posted by enkonyito at Feb 16, 2018, 11:05:52 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
@Ceciliabr

Maybe you could make the plugin-window resizable? That would meet every individual need

Proof by the image.

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Posted by enkonyito at Feb 16, 2018, 11:20:36 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
@ndorigatti

What about changing the Quality bar? we have only 4 options and it is huge, fast and best are taking a lot of space in addition to 1-2-3-4.... Maybe replace 1 and 4 with fast and best and keep 2 and 3 instead of replacing the whole component?

The goal of the plug-in is to stay visually close to the standard photo panel while providing new options.
Personally, I occasionally use quality level 1 (3D view without shadow) and one of the higher quality levels (3 or 4) with the setting of SunFlow rendering engine.

The lookAndFeel (that I did not understand why having that option, but maybe I missed some thread) should be a non frequent option to change (it is less important than picture size or quality, so it could stay in a "secondary" frame like advanced options, why not?

This option is not related to the rendering but I have integrated it in the photo panel in order to modify the appearance of the interface.
The other solution is to use a script for the installer version as shown here with "-Dswing.defaultlaf=".
Available Look and Feels:

javax.swing.plaf.metal.MetalLookAndFeel
javax.swing.plaf.nimbus.NimbusLookAndFeel
com.sun.java.swing.plaf.motif.MotifLookAndFeel
com.sun.java.swing.plaf.windows.WindowsLookAndFeel
com.sun.java.swing.plaf.windows.WindowsClassicLookAndFeel

I would put the elapsed time bar under the "Advanced settings / Enhance Brightness" line, just to separate what will change the resulting image and require a stop-create (over that line) and what is modifying in live the UI and the components shown (below the progress bar)

This may be possible (see previous central image).
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Posted by mirakels at Feb 21, 2018, 7:28:20 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Maybe make 'quality' a drop down menu... It only has 4 choices so why a slider does not add much functionality

Posted by Ceciliabr at Feb 25, 2018, 2:57:14 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
@enkonyito

Resizable is king!

Now the next, ( and probably impossible) challenge is: Can the resizable photo renderer include a 3D preview? It would really "revolutionise" this program to have a combined preview- and render-window.

Cec

Posted by enkonyito at Feb 26, 2018, 6:58:42 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Version 1.4.1
- resizable photo panel with modified layout
- display of the current version of the plug-in in the menu

Thanks to my beta testers Ceciliabr and hansmex for their feedback and to Emmanuel Puybaret for his advice! wink

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Posted by Ceciliabr at Feb 27, 2018, 12:59:16 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Resizable renderer with rendering in progress:

cec

Posted by bdfd at Feb 27, 2018, 7:28:54 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Hi,

It's not my first installed plugin... but I got a problem.

I don't see anything :
1. in the options menu
2. in librairies list
3. but plugin is in the good sub-directory (green Arrow)

An idea ?
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Posted by okh at Feb 27, 2018, 9:33:14 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Congratulations, very nice. Thanks. The settings explanation in configureSunflowRenderingEngine.pdf from thread,6122 is quite necessary for me to grasp the advanced settings. If you consider updating it, do not hesitate to spell out in some more detail what the different settings mean. Even if I could find out for myself, some of the options slow down the rendering process quite a bit - and then it can be hard to find out when a setting is worth the trouble. But that is a detail, very nice work.
ok

Posted by Ceciliabr at Feb 27, 2018, 8:38:02 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
@enkonyito

Can the dark level options be included in the resizable?
It would be nice if it could smile

Posted by enkonyito at Feb 28, 2018, 4:41:01 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
@bdfd

I don't see anything :
1. in the options menu
2. in librairies list
3. but plugin is in the good sub-directory (green Arrow)

An idea ?

To install the plug-in and replace the old version, simply double-click on the PhotoVideoRendering.sh3p file included in the PhotoVideoRendering-1.4.1.zip folder.
Maybe I should display the current version in the Photo-video rendering menu?

@okh

The settings explanation in configureSunflowRenderingEngine.pdf from thread,6122 is quite necessary for me to grasp the advanced settings. If you consider updating it, do not hesitate to spell out in some more detail what the different settings mean.

It is true that this document on the setting of the SunFlow rendering engine is a bit dated and that an update would be necessary following the understanding of the interaction between certain parameters (managed by the plug-in).

@Ceciliabr

Can the dark level options be included in the resizable?
It would be nice if it could

The minimum night brightness (dark level 2) is included since version 1.4 of the plug-in.

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Posted by bdfd at Feb 28, 2018, 7:24:30 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

@enkonyito : YES !

It was the GOOD method. applause

I did an extraction by double-click from the zipped file... and after a double-click from the sh3p file by explorer... crying

but I have to leave the default PVR to see the new plugin... biggrin

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Posted by okh at Feb 28, 2018, 3:49:02 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Have tried the rendering plugin some more and really like the way it looks/feels/behaves. Maybe especially that the interface is clean and easy, but with a button for the advanced settings.

..document on the setting of the SunFlow rendering engine is a bit dated and that an update would be necessary...

Actually, there may be nothing wrong with the document. I suspect that in my case I may be the shortcoming as I am not patient enough to find out more about the terminology smile

Thanks again for nice work.

ok

Posted by Ceciliabr at Mar 2, 2018, 3:47:47 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
@enkonyito

The minimum night brightness (dark level 2) is included since version 1.4 of the plug-in.

That's fine, but how about the selectable options?

Is it possible?

Cec

Posted by enkonyito at Mar 3, 2018, 7:23:26 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
@Ceciliabr

That's fine, but how about the selectable options?

In the public version of the plug-in, the selectable dark level option has been removed in favor of code integration. This allows to have a simple and practical interface.
By default, the dark level 2 is chosen but it is possible to have the dark level 0 (at night hours) by selecting diffusedBounces = 0.

If you still want the selectable dark level option, I can make this beta test version of the plug-in resizable.
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Posted by enkonyito at Mar 5, 2018, 12:57:56 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Update of the document "Configure the SunFlow rendering engine ".
This version 2 describes the parameters and their interactions, with examples of rendering and an indication of the duration.
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Posted by hansmex at Mar 5, 2018, 7:24:14 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Thank you, Enko!!!
This may be useful for many people.

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Posted by Ceciliabr at Mar 5, 2018, 9:13:26 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

it is possible to have the dark level 0 (at night hours) by selecting diffusedBounces = 0.

Perfect! Then that's all I need smile

Cec

Posted by enkonyito at Apr 13, 2018, 9:57:57 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Corrective version 1.4.2
- minimum night brightness off for a time range of sky color
- offscreen image without rendering progress panel (quality 1 and 2)
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Posted by bdfd at Apr 15, 2018, 6:29:22 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Great ! applause

Perhaps add the version in the top of the window... wink

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Posted by bdfd at Apr 16, 2018, 5:02:25 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

Corrective version 1.4.2
- minimum night brightness off for a time range of sky color
- offscreen image without rendering progress panel (quality 1 and 2)

Hi enko,

I got a problem in using PVR 1.4.2 this afternoon. sad

See belowed screenshot

it's been 01 hour that he informed me that there was 1mn33s !
I lost 2h46mn [moderated]

Do you know Why ?

This only concerns a square (red Arrow) and the last ???
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Posted by enkonyito at Apr 17, 2018, 1:46:53 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Hi bdfd,

Are you sure you are using the right version of the plug-in?
It is displayed in the menu and the panels.

Regarding your problem of rendering stuck at 99%, reproduces it
- without the enhencement of the external brightness?
- with a width of 640 pixels for example?
- with the standard photo panel of Sweet Home 3D?

It may happen that the rendering engine "crashes" on a particular object that requires a lot of computation.

The estimated remaining time is based on the percentage of progression and the elapsed time.

Enko Nyito
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Posted by bdfd at Apr 17, 2018, 6:48:57 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Hi enko,

TY for your return.

But no, I haven't this window.

Step 1
Take at the begining to understand my problem.
On the belowed screen, here is the menu of sh3d 5.7 with files in sub-directory ( note the date and the size of the pvr ).

Step 2
I 've downloaded and installed pvr-1.4.2.sh3p

None update ???

Why ?

Step 3
I deleted old file and renamed new...
Launch !

! The option of the menu has disappeared !

Did you see this before ?

Do you have an explanation for me ?

smile

Manu, if you can help us eventually... wink

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Posted by Puybaret at Apr 17, 2018, 10:41:42 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
I would quit Sweet Home 3D, remove all PhotoVideoRenderingxxx.sh3p files, install one again and relaunch Sweet Home 3D.
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Posted by bdfd at Apr 17, 2018, 1:29:19 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
I follow the process but none update.

More, I've lost an option of the menu...

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Posted by enkonyito at Apr 21, 2018, 12:12:20 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
I do not know if this is the general case but I prefer to display the extensions of files whose type is known.
For example, the Sweet Home 3D types recognized by the operating system are sh3p (plugins), sh3f (furniture) and sh3l (languages). The sh3t type (textures) is not recognized as a Sweet Home 3D type.

By clicking Help -> About... -> Libraries... , you can only see the list of plug-ins recognized by Sweet Homme 3D even though many more are installed.

As Emmanuel Puybaret suggests, it can be useful to do a little cleaning by removing all plug-ins starting with PhotoVideoRendering or PVR especially if you have installed test versions.

Follow this method for installing the plug-in:

Download the latest version

Open the PhotoVideoRendering-xxx.zip compressed folder

Double-click on the PhotoVideoRendering.sh3p file
(If you use the portable version of SH3D, put the .sh3p file in the data/plugins folder)

Sweet Home 3D then displays:

either a first installation message

or a replacement message

click on Replace

Hoping that it will be useful to everyone!
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Posted by bdfd at Apr 21, 2018, 2:53:28 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
TY Enko.

It works fine ! applause

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Posted by enkonyito at May 28, 2018, 5:46:24 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Version 1.5
- management of other types of light (PointLight, TriangleMeshLight)

Libraries Other types of light only compatible with this plug-in, containing:
- 3 light panels of modifiable color
- 6 light points of different colors
Available in the Light sources category.
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Posted by Ceciliabr at May 29, 2018, 1:31:33 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
I love it!

We can see how beautiful the light panel makes the light fall on her hair and arms.

And we can see the point light reflecting in her eyes.

Great, great, great job!
This takes lighting in SH3D to a new level.

Cecilia

Posted by enkonyito at May 29, 2018, 3:25:50 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

We can see how beautiful the light panel makes the light fall on her hair and arms.

And we can see the point light reflecting in her eyes.

Glad to see you've found a good use for these new lights!

This takes lighting in SH3D to a new level.

I think so too.

I hope they will also be useful to others.

Enko
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Posted by okh at May 29, 2018, 11:53:51 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

This takes lighting in SH3D to a new level.

It does indeed. Quite amazing. Congratulations and thanks, enkonyito! Without yet having had much time to experiment, it seems to me that the new light types can give softer illumination with fewer light sources, and that rendering (therefore?) will be faster. Looking forward to testing further even if I suspect I shall have to rely on examples and intructions to make full use of your work.

Forgive me for asking a couple of what probably may be silly questions/wishes:

does the renderer rely on the description field to determine the type?
description#1=PointLight type
description#2=TriangleMeshLight type
Would adding a planIcon# simplify placement of the different lights in the 2D view?
Could also having a TriangleMeshLight with other colours be useful?
Something closer to incandecent (lightSourceColor#2=#BB9854) maybe?

Posted by enkonyito at May 30, 2018, 3:56:45 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
@okh

it seems to me that the new light types can give softer illumination with fewer light sources

This is especially true for light panels (TriangleMeshLight type) as shown in the Sunflow doc (page 54).
I also found it in my renderings to simulate the interior natural light.

does the renderer rely on the description field to determine the type?

Yes, the PhotoRenderer class uses the description of the light object to differentiate types.

String lightDescription = light.getDescription();
// SphereLight type
if (lightDescription == null
    || lightDescription.contains("SphereLight")) {
...
}
// PointLight type
else if (lightDescription.contains("PointLight")) {
...
}
// TriangleMeshLight type
else if (lightDescription.contains("TriangleMeshLight")) {
...
}

We can then assign a type to a light we want to create.
The TriangleMeshLight type is special because the coordinates of the vertices are statically encoded so the shape is limited to a single-sided panel.
As it is rotating, nothing prevents to use it for an existing object.
(Light panel #1: opaque when off, Light panel #2: invisible when off, Light panel #3: visible when selected and not viewable in rendering).

Would adding a planIcon# simplify placement of the different lights in the 2D view?

For those I created, given their depths, it was not really necessary but if you want to add a type to the description of your lights it could be useful.

Could also having a TriangleMeshLight with other colours be useful?
Something closer to incandecent (lightSourceColor#2=#BB9854) maybe?

The default color is daylight (lightSourceColor#2=#6D7991) but since the PhotoRenderer class retrieves the color of the object to use as a light source color, you can change it.

int lightColor = lightSource.getColor();
HomeMaterial[] lightMaterial = light.getModelMaterials();
if (light.getColor() != null) {
    lightColor = light.getColor();
} else if (lightMaterial != null && lightMaterial.length == 1
        && lightMaterial[0].getColor() != null) {
    lightColor = lightMaterial[0].getColor();
}

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Posted by okh at May 30, 2018, 2:22:38 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Thanks for this. Did experiment some more, and - as you say - the light panels (TriangleMeshLight type) are especially useful for creating softer illumination. And very useful it is, as I cannot be bothered with lots of lightsources around the room to get the perfect render. With the TriangleMeshLight it is easy to shape and adjust with one or two lamps. Made one with incandescent colour, icon and planIcon. While it is true, that a planIcon does not show when the model is kept at zero depth, SH3D will let you resize also the depth, and voilÃ , the planIcon is visible showing the direction of the light. For now this does the trick for me. I might make a fireglow-ish one at some point (lots of fireplaces and candles here) and possibly experiment some with angles.

Thanks again - very very useful set of tools.

ok

Posted by bdfd at Jun 20, 2018, 7:22:11 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
TY enkonyito ! hugs

I found a solution for my opaque windows with your objects and PVR 1.5. applause

In this first picture, light panels (in front of window) are at 0% : we see external flowers.

In this second picture, we have opacity and light with :
at left of the door, the light panel is at 5%,
at right of the door: a light panel is at 50%.
=> We don't see external objects, just light.

smile

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Posted by r921vs at Jul 30, 2018, 8:27:07 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Very good tools! They give new opportunities. Thank you!

[/img] https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/28d0/p1uv3t6tmfz8tnk6g.jpg

Posted by Mike53 at Sep 8, 2018, 3:55:19 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Hi enkonyito.
Hopefully you will be able to help me. I am struggling to use the no.3 light source with 1.5 plug in.
If i rotate it on x axis 90 degrees i get this :-

Good illumination but bad appearance

If i rotate it on x axis 270 degrees i get this :-

No illumination but good appearance

And if i use the icon from the tool bar

very good illumination but poor appearance

and i have no idea what is illuminating the outer frame of the garage door.

The other thing i have noticed is that if you resize or rotate the sources they appear normal in the plan, but, if you then copy / paste them they appear vertical again.
If you'll pardon the pun, i hope you can shed some light on my issues, I am sure i am missing something.
Mike

Posted by enkonyito at Sep 8, 2018, 9:11:01 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Hi Mike,

For the next version of the plug-in, there will be an update of the light source libraries with more explicit names.

Regarding the light panels, one side emits light and they do not work with the standard photo panel. The other side is invisible.
- 90 degree rotation on the X axis: emitting face up
- 270 degrees rotation on the X axis: emitting face down
For the non-opaque light panel, the diagonal of the emitting face serves as a reference.

and i have no idea what is illuminating the outer frame of the garage door.

The simplest is that you send me your file.

The other thing i do not know what they're doing, but if they're going to be back to normal, but if they're going to be vertical again.

I did not encounter that kind of problem.

Enko
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Posted by enkonyito at Oct 13, 2018, 8:04:11 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
PhotoVideoRendering-1.6 plug-in
- compatibility with Sweet Home 3D 6.0 and higher
- management of new light sources
- use of a light panel as room ceiling light
- added Speed and Frame Rate fields in the video panel
- possibility to choose the type of path in the video panel

OtherLightTypes-1.1 libraries compatible only with this plug-in
- PointLight_type: 1 light point with modifiable color
- SphereLight_type: 3 light spheres with modifiable color
- TrianglemeshLight_type: 3 light panels including 2 with modifiable color
Available in the Light sources category.
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Posted by okh at Oct 13, 2018, 8:21:52 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Thank you. Important part of the 6.0 launch. Quick test looks good. ok

Posted by Mike53 at Oct 14, 2018, 11:44:51 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Hi enkonyito.
Have to say i found these light sources far more user friendly, thanks for the work you put into them and 1.6

Here i have used 4 opaque panels @ 25% and 4 "unviewable" panels, these are elevated to 1100mm, set to 10% and light the ceiling.

Thanks again
Mike

Posted by bdfd at Oct 18, 2018, 7:28:24 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

PhotoVideoRendering-1.6 plug-in
- compatibility with Sweet Home 3D 6.0 and higher
- management of new light sources
- use of a light panel as room ceiling light
- added Speed and Frame Rate fields in the video panel
- possibility to choose the type of path in the video panel

OtherLightTypes-1.1 libraries compatible only with this plug-in
- PointLight_type: 1 light point with modifiable color
- SphereLight_type: 3 light spheres with modifiable color
- TrianglemeshLight_type: 3 light panels including 2 with modifiable color
Available in the Light sources category.

Can not change the color of lights.

None problem for me.

Automatic and color work fine ! applause

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Posted by UbuntuBirdy at Oct 22, 2018, 1:00:05 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Is this just imagination or does the new plug-in render much faster?
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Posted by YGYL at Oct 22, 2018, 4:55:02 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Today I rendered 16 times to test the difference between the different items in "Advanced settings>Quality 4>samplerAlgorithm" option.

I found that "bucket" rendering is the best quality and takes up the least amount of GPU. "Fast" rendering is the fastest quality consuming GPU.

If you want GPU to take up a little more, I think there is only one way. Render with a fast rendered quadruple resolution. Then use software to reduce the screen size by 4 times.

Original image, not rendered

"bucket"-1000X500 Rendering time, 40 minutes

"fast"-4000X2000 Reduce size 1000X500 Rendering time, 26 minutes

The difference is only in the processing of light and shadow. Square rendering is more natural. But the rendering time for fast rendering is 40% less.

So I recommend
1.adding one in the option, 4x supersampling for fast rendering.
2.And render with smaller squares.
3.Support for rendering pauses.
4.And automatically save the file.
5.Allow rendering of 16000X8000 resolution

Posted by YGYL at Oct 25, 2018, 12:13:58 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Another important thing to forget is to add a "pause" button after the rendering starts.
The rendering time is very long and uses 100% CPU. If you encounter individual things at this time, you can't do it.

Posted by enkonyito at Feb 9, 2019, 12:43:32 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
At this point, the plug-in will not evolve any more.

Compatibility with future versions of Sweet Home 3D will be maintained, as far as possible, for changes in rendering. (PhotoRenderer.java history )

Enko Nyito
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Posted by enkonyito at Apr 24, 2019, 10:23:13 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
While waiting for the next version of Sweet Home 3D, here is the latest beta 1.7 of the plug-in. This allows you to test the ambient lighting panels by activating "Add all ceiling lights" in the standard version of SH3D.
To view the location of panels in the plan using polylines, you can use this utility.
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Posted by Mike53 at May 5, 2019, 6:25:04 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Not sure, well no idea at all really, how much a plug can link with the main software, but, would it be possible to move the choice of having the ambient lighting on, and its slider, away from the render modification window and onto the room modification window.
This way each room could be controlled individually, on, off and brightness.
Mike

Posted by enkonyito at May 6, 2019, 4:45:31 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

Not sure, well no idea at all really, how much a plug can link with the main software, but, would it be possible to move the choice of having the ambient lighting on, and its slider, away from the render modification window and onto the room modification window.
This way each room could be controlled individually, on, off and brightness.
Mike

It would be possible as here but it imposes some constraints.
Given the size of rooms modification panel, the slider would not be very readable.
The addition of such a feature is possible in a derived version but will require an update to each new version of Sweet Home 3D.
The plug-in will have to be compatible with these 2 versions (standard and derived).

The easiest way is to make an official request for the ceiling lights power feature to be integrated into the standard version of SH3D.
The plug-in will be able to retrieve this information and manage the ambient lighting panels.

Enko
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Posted by Mike53 at May 6, 2019, 9:41:10 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
I missed that one sorry m8

Posted by Ceciliabr at Jun 6, 2019, 11:44:40 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

At this point, the plug-in will not evolve any more.

If it's not too much bother, could you please fix it so that the render window is not always on top? Being always on top, it's hiding important pop-ups that need attention.
It's probably not a big operation, since it used to behave like a normal window in earlier versions.

Cecilia

Posted by enkonyito at Jun 8, 2019, 2:53:17 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

The standard photo panel, like the resizable photo panel, does not prevent other windows from appearing above it.

Since the first version of the plug-in, if you try to open another photo panel, the one that is already open is put in front.

if (currentPhotoPanel == null) {
  new AdvancedPhotoPanel(...);
} else {
  SwingUtilities.getWindowAncestor(currentPhotoPanel).toFront();
}

Since I only use one screen, I did not notice any particular problem.
If you use 2 or more screens, what behavior do you get by displaying the resizable photo panel (full screen or not) in a window other than the plan and trying to open another photo panel?

Enko
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Posted by Ceciliabr at Jun 8, 2019, 5:15:24 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

he standard photo panel, like the resizable photo panel, does not prevent other windows from appearing above it.

Well, have a look at this:

http://ceciliabr.com/sh3d/Always-on-top.mov

Something must have been changed. It works fine prior to v1.6.
I haven't mentioned this earlier, since I reconed it would go back to normal with v 1.7.

I'm on OSX, and it might not work the same way in Windows.

Hope you can fix it and that it's not causing you a lot of trouble:)

Cecilia.

Posted by enkonyito at Jun 9, 2019, 7:32:39 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Cecilia,

In view of your video, this is a regression on Mac OS X. However, there has been no change in the behavior of the photo panel.
The only difference with previous versions is the compatibility of v1.6 with SH3D-6.0.
Do you have the same problem with the standard photo panel?

For now, I think of 2 solutions:
1- use the default behavior of the standard photo panel
2- force the resizable photo panel to not always be on top

Has anyone noticed this bug on Linux?
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Posted by Ceciliabr at Jun 9, 2019, 9:21:12 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

Do you have the same problem with the standard photo panel?

No.

As I said: If it's not too much bother. â€“ and I really feel bad complaining about this.
So don't worry about it.
It's just a minor minor minor issue compared to the great great great advantages of using this beautiful plugin. I can easily work my way around this, as I have done for months now.

Cecilia

Posted by enkonyito at Jul 15, 2019, 2:47:25 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
PhotoVideoRendering-1.7 plug-in
- added an ambient lighting slider (simple photo panel)
- fixed a bug in the management of curved lines (video panel)
- fixed a bug in the management of speed values (video panel)
- added other global illumination (rendering properties)
- management of additional Sunflow options
- compatibility with the standard version of SH3D and its derived version

AdditionalSunflowOptions-1.1 plug-in
- Sunflow options to override shaders

SH3D-6.2_derived executable jar
- added an independent ceiling light in each room
- added Fake Ambient Term 2 global illumination
- grouping the actions of a same plug-in in a menu
- other minor enhancements

Enko Nyito
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Posted by hansmex at Jul 15, 2019, 6:54:39 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Thank you for the new (version of the) plug-in and the JAR. I'm trying them out, but have some problems.

The JAR runs without problems under Windows 10 64-bits, but when I try to make a render I run into memory problems. The JAR runs in 32-bit mode and allows only 0.2 GB of memory, that's not enough to do any serious work. Can you increase the memory allowance, or offer a version that allows the standard installation?

Hans
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new website - under constuction
hansdirkse.info

Posted by MichaelN at Jul 15, 2019, 6:14:50 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Is there any Help for the Rendering Plugin? And it's common, that it needs several hours for 1600x Pixel?

Posted by enkonyito at Jul 15, 2019, 11:50:47 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
@hansmex

The JAR runs in 32-bit mode and allows only 0.2 GB of memory, that's not enough to do any serious work.

You can run the JAR file with a script using java options like increasing the memory.

java -Xmx2g -jar path/to/SH3D-6.2_derived.jar

Can you increase the memory allowance, or offer a version that allows the standard installation?

Maintaining a derived version requires a lot more work than a plug-ing because you have to create a new one with every standard Sweet Home 3D update. What I do not plan to do...
I released the version derived from SH3D-6.2 to show the possibilities of the modifications made to the program.

@MichaelN

Is there any Help for the Rendering Plugin?

This tutorial explains how the plug-in works for rendering properties.
With PVR-1.7, "default" global illumination is replaced by "Ambient Occlusion" and "path" by "Path Tracing".

And it's common, that it needs several hours for 1600x Pixel?

It depends on your scene (number of lights, activated ceiling lights, shininess of objects, enhancement of external brightness) and rendering settings (number of antialiasing, type of global illumination, type of sampler algorithm).

Examples:
- comparative global illumination
- additional Sunflow options
- independent ceiling lights
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Posted by hansmex at Jul 16, 2019, 11:12:27 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
This doesn't work...
- right-click on the Windows logo
- select Run
- java -Xmx8g -jar C:\Users\hans\Downloads\SH3D-6.2_derived.jar
- nothing happens

Any suggestions?
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new website - under constuction
hansdirkse.info

Posted by UbuntuBirdy at Jul 16, 2019, 3:27:50 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Not sure if it works on Windoof, but go to your SweetHome3D directory, open the lib folder, rename the SweetHome3D.jar to anything else, rename the JAR-file from Enko to SweetHome3D.jar and copy it to the lib folder in your SweetHome3D directory.
Then start your SweetHome3D as usual...
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SH3D 6.6 / Ubuntu 22.04 (Mainline-Kernel) / Radeon RX580 / Ryzen 7 5800x

Posted by enkonyito at Jul 17, 2019, 9:56:41 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

This doesn't work...
- right-click on the Windows logo
- select Run
- java -Xmx8g -jar C:\Users\hans\Downloads\SH3D-6.2_derived.jar
- nothing happens

Any suggestions?

You can launch the JAR file
- from a terminal:

java -Xmx8g -jar "C:\Users\hans\Downloads\SH3D-6.2_derived.jar"

- from a .bat file in the same directory as the JAR:

java -Xmx8g -jar SH3D-6.2_derived.jar

Enko
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Posted by enkonyito at Aug 26, 2019, 11:21:57 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
This beta version 1.8 of the photo plug-in will allow you to test the new shininess shaders and Sunflow standard options from version 1.2 of this other plug-in (Tools menu).

[Note: Updated download links to include video rendering and bug fixes in standard options.]
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PVR-1.8_betaTest2.sh3p (353864 bytes) (Download count: 93375)

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AdditionalSunflowOptions-1.2.sh3p (70930 bytes) (Download count: 302)

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PVR-1.8_betaTest2a.sh3p (353801 bytes) (Download count: 108043)

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AdditionalSunflowOptions-1.2a.sh3p (70997 bytes) (Download count: 322)

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Posted by Ceciliabr at Aug 27, 2019, 9:52:45 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Perfect!

After some testing, I have found that a buffer size of 48 is marginally faster than 64 and 32.
Is it automatically detecting the number of threads available?

Quite oddly, it seems that choosing different bucket orders has an impact on the rendering time.
This is rendered with column.

Hilbert : 39 s
Spiral : 39 s
Row : 38 s
Column : 35 s
Diagonal : 35 s
Random: 48 s

I didn't try the reverse options â€“ but I must admit I was somewhat curious about the reverse random...

I noticed no difference with the threads.lowPriority activated.

The project file is meant as an illustration of the rather hot inner core of the earth (intended for the education of my daughters),
and I wanted it to spin, so I tried making a video.
It seems the video will not render in Q4, but stops about half way.

I'm including the project file, in case anyone wants to give it a try ( 1280 x 536 )

Project file

Cec

Posted by enkonyito at Aug 28, 2019, 7:03:28 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
@Ceciliabr

Is it automatically detecting the number of threads available?

Yes, the number of threads by default is the number of available processors (CPU) that will be the maximum value because I noticed a bug by opening your file on my computer which has only 4 cores.

Quite oddly, it seems that choosing different bucket orders has an impact on the rendering time.

I think it depends on the scene.
With yours where the subject is central and the background black, the order has an influence especially on the calculation of the remaining time.

I didn't try the reverse options â€“ but I must admit I was somewhat curious about the reverse random...

The "reverse random" bucket order will be removed.

I noticed no difference with the threads.lowPriority activated.

This is what I also found but I do not do any action in the plan or the 3D view during a rendering.

It seems the video will not render in Q4, but stops about half way.

Version 1.7 of the plug-in uses only the default values of the new options.
I will test with different video format because the lighting significantly increases the duration of the rendering.

Enko
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Posted by Ceciliabr at Sep 25, 2019, 7:49:44 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
I have tested, and tested, and tested again, and again, and I have found nothing wrong.
PVR-1.8_betaTest2, in companion with Additional Sunflow options (v1,2), works like a charm, and the combination is surely a blessing for everyone concerned with advanced rendering.
Myself, I would rather that the semi-transparent part of an uncompleted rendering could be completely transparent, but it works perfectly well like it i is!

In my opinion, PVR-1.8_betaTest2 is a release candidate (if it hasn't already been released without my knowledge)

Thank you for your great work!

Cecilia

Posted by waleedfahmy at Sep 25, 2019, 9:49:22 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
I wish if one of experts make a detailed tutorial about rendering and setting . I get good results but after many trials and not totally satisfied with results

Posted by enkonyito at Sep 26, 2019, 3:12:41 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
@Ceciliabr

I have tested, and tested, and tested again, and again, and I have found nothing wrong.

Regarding the problem of video rendering, everything works correctly?
On my side it's random for a new simple project: a single object and a linear or circular camera path.

Myself, I would rather that the semi-transparent part of an uncompleted rendering could be completely transparent, but it works perfectly well like it i is!

It is possible but I did not propose it because we do not see the size of the image.

In my opinion, PVR-1.8_betaTest2 is a release candidate (if it hasn't already been released without my knowledge)

If everything is good on your side, I think that version 1.8 will soon be published.
The next big innovation will be the addition of the YafaRay rendering engine when its beta phase is over.

Enko
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Posted by enkonyito at Sep 26, 2019, 3:22:24 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
@waleedfahmy

I wish if one of experts make a detailed tutorial about rendering and setting . I get good results but after many trials and not totally satisfied with results

VeroniQ has created a blog tutorial "How to create a nice photo rendering" and a video tutorial "How to create nice photo renderings".
Ceciliabr has created a detailed tutorial explaining his techniques and tips for a photo-realistic rendering.
For the description of the Sunflow rendering parameters, you can consult this document.
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Posted by waleedfahmy at Sep 26, 2019, 10:48:56 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

@waleedfahmy

I wish if one of experts make a detailed tutorial about rendering and setting . I get good results but after many trials and not totally satisfied with results

Thank you :)

Posted by Ceciliabr at Sep 26, 2019, 7:56:10 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

Regarding the problem of video rendering, everything works correctly?

No, but that's not a biggie.

Regarding the transparency, that's not a biggie either, but it could be an option?
Is it really important to see the size of the image?
It's only when using Spiral that you're not able to visually imagine the size of the finished rendering.

The next big innovation will be the addition of the YafaRay rendering engine when its beta phase is over.

Looking forward to that.
But please don't abandon Sunflow quite yet.

Cec

Posted by enkonyito at Sep 28, 2019, 12:12:23 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

Is it really important to see the size of the image?

I think so because it is scaled to be visible in the photo panel regardless of its resolution.

Regarding the transparency, that's not a biggie either, but it could be an option?
But please don't abandon Sunflow quite yet.

I do not intend to abandon Sunflow but I prefer to leave the choice of the rendering engine to the end user as in this old plug-in by adding YafaRay. This will imply a change of the interface by favoring the display of advanced settings.

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Posted by bdfd at Sep 28, 2019, 6:49:54 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Bravo enko ! applause

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Posted by enkonyito at Oct 1, 2019, 2:20:38 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
PhotoVideoRendering-1.8 plug-in
- saving the image after stopping a rendering (simple photo panel)
- semi-transparent image background (simple photo panel)
- added a photo preview while rendering (video panel)
- added other shininess shader (rendering properties)
- management of Sunflow standard options

AdditionalSunflowOptions-1.2 plug-in
- added Sunflow standard options

Enko Nyito
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Posted by Xiste at Nov 4, 2019, 9:37:07 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
This plugin is perfect!
I love the different rendering options and the new save function. Rendering parts of an image, saves a lot of rendering time when you want to correct something.
Now I just have to learn what all the new parameters are doing, and how to use them.

Excellent work!
Thank you!

Xiste

Posted by enkonyito at Nov 5, 2019, 2:34:43 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

This plugin is perfect!
I love the different rendering options and the new save function. Rendering parts of an image, saves a lot of rendering time when you want to correct something.
Now I just have to learn what all the new parameters are doing, and how to use them.

Excellent work!
Thank you!

Xiste

Thank you Xiste! Nice to see you like this plug-in.

I started working on its new interface for adding the rendering engine selector.
There will no longer be the ambient lighting slider or the display of the estimated remaining time that is not very reliable.
The Enhance external brightness checkbox will be renamed Enable sky lighting.
The Advanced settings button would access the properties of the selected rendering engine.

Who says two rendering engines, says twice as many parameters to assimilate and surely to detail.

Enko
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Posted by MichaelN at Nov 17, 2019, 3:44:54 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
If I use the simple photo rendering V1.8 with enhanced external brightness - it slow down so much, that even a 240x123 px picture doesn't show anything (no estimated time, no draft view) after 10 minutes.

Any hints?

Posted by enkonyito at Nov 19, 2019, 1:29:33 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
@MichaelN

If I use the simple photo rendering V1.8 with enhanced external brightness - it slow down so much, that even a 240x123 px picture doesn't show anything (no estimated time, no draft view) after 10 minutes.

Any hints?

Difficult to answer in detail without more information.
Enhanced external brightness takes a lot of time with a sky texture, a great image resolution, at night. The global illumination used also has an influence.
I advise you to perform a test without it being enabled to see the rendering time and have a comparison.

Enko
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Posted by enkonyito at Dec 22, 2019, 6:36:24 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

I started working on its new interface for adding the rendering engine selector.
There will no longer be the ambient lighting slider or the display of the estimated remaining time that is not very reliable.
The Enhance external brightness checkbox will be renamed Enable sky lighting.
The Advanced settings button would access the properties of the selected rendering engine.

All objects in ChristmasLights.sh3d have been matted to avoid differences in shininess between the renderers.

For the moment, the YafaRay rendering engine is not compatible with these light panels.
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Posted by Ceciliabr at Dec 22, 2019, 8:31:53 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

For the moment, the YafaRay rendering engine is not compatible with these light panels.

I'm using your panel lights all over the place, so I guess I shall just have to be patient.

There will no longer be the ambient lighting slider or the display of the estimated remaining time that is not very reliable.

Please don't ditch this. It's not entirely reliable, but it's in fact fairly close to accurate under the right circumstanses.
It predicted 79 hours for rendering this image, and it took 72.

cec

Posted by enkonyito at Dec 24, 2019, 3:05:44 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
@Ceciliabr

I'm using your panel lights all over the place, so I guess I shall just have to be patient.

I hope that Emmanuel Puybaret will take into account my request concerning an xml example file using light panels, opaque light spheres and caustic photons because the documentation of YafaRay does not detail it which complicates their implementation.

Please don't ditch this. It's not entirely reliable, but it's in fact fairly close to accurate under the right circumstanses.

Keeping the display of the estimated remaining time, it will surely be necessary to modify the size of the photo panel so that it is not too large on a standard screen.

Beautiful Christmas tree!

Enko
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Posted by Ceciliabr at Dec 25, 2019, 11:55:04 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

it will surely be necessary to modify the size of the photo panel so that it is not too large on a standard screen.

What is a standard screen? 1080p?

Posted by enkonyito at Dec 28, 2019, 2:03:56 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

it will surely be necessary to modify the size of the photo panel so that it is not too large on a standard screen.

What is a standard screen? 1080p?

A medium-sized screen.

Finally, the height of the photo panel is acceptable while keeping the display of the estimated remaining time. ;-)
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Posted by enkonyito at Feb 13, 2020, 8:57:41 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
PhotoVideoRendering-1.9 plug-in
- added a rendering engine selector (simple photo panel)
- compatibility with the YafaRay rendering plug-in (version 1.0)

EnkoNyito
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Posted by Puybaret at Feb 14, 2020, 5:02:42 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Congratulations EnkoNyito! smile

If possible, I would suggest that you post a SH3D demo file in Ticket #18 that will show most of your settings (maybe with some explaining texts in the plan when necessary). The documents you wrote are certainly appreciated, but demos can help to show quickly how it works.
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Emmanuel Puybaret, Sweet Home 3D creator

Posted by hansmex at Feb 14, 2020, 8:33:15 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Enko,

Indeed, beautiful and very practical. It works well under Windows 10 pro, will test in coming days, weeks.

Thank you very much!!! ðŸ¾ðŸ¾ðŸ¾
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Hans

new website - under constuction
hansdirkse.info

Posted by enkonyito at Apr 3, 2020, 9:37:24 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Emmanuel, Hans, thank you very much! wink

Here is a SH3D demo file for using the plug-in with new light sources and image-based lighting (sky with texture).

SunFlow rendering (Ambient Occlusion + sky lighting enabled)

EnkoNyito
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EnkoNyito

Posted by enkonyito at May 25, 2020, 2:27:19 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
For the opaque light panels, it was necessary to apply a specific material to them so that they work with YafaRay.

Regarding the demand for automatic light panels, those that are off during the day keep their glow effect. Is it annoying for you?

If this is too annoying, only an unviewable light panel will be available in automatic mode.
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Posted by s_koch at May 25, 2020, 2:30:47 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

Here is a SH3D demo file for using the plug-in with new light sources and image-based lighting (sky with texture).

Dear Enko,
may I ask as a Newbie in this Software:
Do really mean that IBL is possible with SW3D.
As far as I know, for IBL usage and renderings, the sky-picture should be a hdri (32bit).
But such hdriÂ´s are not useable in SW3D, right?

So, how is this IBL been done, is it really based on the sky pictures pixels?

By the way:
Many thanks for your phantastic support, here in the forum!

Posted by enkonyito at May 26, 2020, 12:13:20 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

Here is a SH3D demo file for using the plug-in with new light sources and image-based lighting (sky with texture).

Hi Sabine,

Even if Sweet Home 3D does not support HDRI format, it is possible to make an IBL rendering with the SunFlow or YafaRay engine.
Choose a good quality sky texture and possibly hemispherical.
Use the latest version of the plug-in by checking Enable sky lighting.
For a true IBL rendering, it is preferable to have a time when the sun is no longer visible.

This type of rendering takes longer and the effect depends on your image. (see posts by Cecilia or my tests)

Enko
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EnkoNyito

Posted by enkonyito at Jun 8, 2020, 2:04:22 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
PhotoVideoRendering-2.0 plug-in
- management of new automatic light panels
- compatibility with version 1.3 of YafaRay plug-in

OtherLightTypes-1.2 libraries
- new automatic light panels (Light sources category)

EnkoNyito
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EnkoNyito

Posted by Xiste at Jun 8, 2020, 9:37:28 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
V2.0 is not working with yafaray on Mac. Press "Create" and nothing happens.
It works fine in Windows.

Unfortunately I chose "Replace" when I installed it. Anyway to get v1.9 back?

Xiste

Posted by Puybaret at Jun 8, 2020, 10:38:30 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Xiste, it worked for me on my iMac so could you try with some other SH3D files?
To remove the last version of the plug-in, remove it from the plug-ins folder of Sweet Home 3D and restart it. This folder is shown when you click on any SH3P file listed in the Plug-ins section of the Libraries in use pane. The latter pane is displayed by clicking on the Libraries... button shown at the bottom of Sweet Home 3D About dialog box.
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Emmanuel Puybaret, Sweet Home 3D creator

Posted by Xiste at Jun 8, 2020, 12:19:50 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
V2.0 works fine on my Macbook Pro from 2019 running Catalina, but it does not work on any of my older macs running High Serra. I have to use the older (5.1) Macs because of the PCI slots, and High Sierra is the last version that is compatible with the 2012 Macs.
( I use PCI slots for my fiber network cards and for the Red Rocket cards, and I can't afford to change my entire render farm right now, since I'm building a new ( and expensive) studio.) :)

So I'm back on v1.9 ( until 2.0 maybe sometime in the future will be compatible with High Sierra).

Xiste

Posted by Puybaret at Jun 8, 2020, 2:53:29 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
I just tried YafaRay Rendering plug-in 1.3 under High Sierra and didn't encounter any issue.
Xiste, would you have the patience to test the YafaRay Rendering plug-in 1.3 too, to let us know if it's a more general issue bound to that plug-in or to PhotoVideoRendering-2.0 plug-in?
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Emmanuel Puybaret, Sweet Home 3D creator

Posted by Xiste at Jun 8, 2020, 3:23:13 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

would you have the patience to test the YafaRay Rendering plug-in 1.3 too

Just did. Same problem.
But it works on both Mojave and Catalina systems.

Typical system config. for my machines:

OSX High Sierra 10.13.6
Processor: 2x 3.06 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon.
Memory: 64 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X 12288 MB

Posted by Ceciliabr at Jun 13, 2020, 8:41:55 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

But it works on both Mojave and Catalina systems.

Interresting.
My Macbook with Catalina won't even start SH3D ( wrong java that cannot be replaced by an older one), and YafaRay 1.3 does not work on my Mac 6.1 with Mojave 10.14.6
Config.:
Mac Pro late 2013 - OSX 10.14.6
Processor: 2.7 GHz 12-Core intel Xeon E5
Memory: 128 GB 1867MHz DDR3 ECC
Graphics: AMD FirePro D700 6144 MB

Cec

Posted by Xiste at Jun 13, 2020, 9:17:50 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

Interresting.
My Macbook with Catalina won't even start SH3D ( wrong java that cannot be replaced by an older one), and YafaRay 1.3 does not work on my Mac 6.1 with Mojave 10.14.6

Ooops!
My mistake. My machines were not updated.
I have updated now, and I get the same results as you.
Wrong java on Catalina, I will try to remove the newer one before installing the old Mac 2017 version.
I will post the result.

Xiste

Posted by Ceciliabr at Jun 13, 2020, 10:06:25 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
I already tried that.
Removing java is really not removing Java, so you still get the same message.
Either Java behaves like some kind of virus that can't be removed, or it leaves a script that prevents installing of older versions.

What bugs me tho, is that v6.3 should ask for an older version of Java, when v6.0 runs perfectly with the latest version of Java.

Posted by Xiste at Jun 14, 2020, 8:46:28 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Problem partly solved, in my case. I did another try, downloaded and followed instructions and opened it. No problem. Everything works with Catalina. The only thing I did different was to open SH3D before moving it to the applications folder.

But the main problem still exist. Yafaray v 1.3 does not work on any other OSX version.

Posted by Xiste at Jun 15, 2020, 11:49:29 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Sorry,
I was too quick about Catalina: Yafaray 1.3 worked once. After changing the xmx to 32g, it no longer works. Changing back does not help.
PVR 1.9 works perfect

Posted by enkonyito at Jun 15, 2020, 7:04:02 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
@Ceciliabr

...and YafaRay 1.3 does not work on my Mac 6.1 with Mojave 10.14.6

@Xiste

Yafaray v 1.3 does not work on any other OSX version.

Which version of the YafaRay rendering plug-in works properly for you?
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EnkoNyito

Posted by Xiste at Jun 15, 2020, 9:47:52 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

Which version of the YafaRay rendering plug-in works properly for you?

PVR1.9 works, so the version you used when creating PVR1.9 is the one working for me.

It seems like the trouble with yafaray 1.3 comes when increasing xmx memory.

Posted by enkonyito at Jun 15, 2020, 10:48:09 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

PVR1.9 works, so the version you used when creating PVR1.9 is the one working for me.

The PhotoVideoRendering-1.9 plug-in uses the YafarayRendering-1.0 plug-in.

Does version 1.1 or 1.2 of the YafaRay plug-in work too?
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EnkoNyito

Posted by Xiste at Jun 15, 2020, 11:45:03 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

Does version 1.1 or 1.2 of the YafaRay plug-in work too?

I don't know. I only use PVR.
Where can I download them? It seems only 1.3 is available for download.

Posted by enkonyito at Jun 16, 2020, 2:14:09 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

Where can I download them? It seems only 1.3 is available for download.

Forum links to download versions of the YafarayRendering plug-in:
- version 1.0
- version 1.1
- version 1.2
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EnkoNyito

Posted by Xiste at Jun 16, 2020, 8:24:00 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
I have now tried all 3 versions with SH3D 6.0 6.1.2 and 6.3.
The only way I can render with yafaray is with PVR 1.9.

The logistic problem here is that there's no way of telling what version of yafaray is actually loaded, since it's only possible to replace the current version with the new,
and I have no way to verify that the replacement has actually taken place, and that no remnants from the other versions are left in some hidden cache or settings file.
This makes it impossible to get qualified results.

I'm really most happy with PVR 1.9 and SH3D 6.0. It's a stable combination for OSX 10.13.6.

Posted by enkonyito at Jun 18, 2020, 3:24:53 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

The logistic problem here is that there's no way of telling what version of yafaray is actually loaded, since it's only possible to replace the current version with the new,
and I have no way to verify that the replacement has actually taken place, and that no remnants from the other versions are left in some hidden cache or settings file.
This makes it impossible to get qualified results.

You can also find here the direct download links for the YafarayRendering plug-in versions.
If several versions are installed, only the last one is taken into account.

Remember to install only one version at a time, removing the old one.
You can check the version in use in the "Plug-ins" section by clicking on "Help -> About... -> Libraries...".
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EnkoNyito

Posted by Xiste at Jun 18, 2020, 11:12:48 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Okay, so I have spotted one problem with my setup:
Whichever version I load of the yafaray renderer, the libraries only says yafaray 1.3 beta. This beta version is not among my downloaded files, so I have no idea where it has come from.

Now I have deleted all instances of SH3D and everything from the libraries, and reinstalled SH3D v 6.3.
With my configuration, Yafaray v 1.3 does not work. All the other versions work.

Xiste

Posted by bdfd at Jun 30, 2020, 7:41:30 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Hi,

Try this :

Launch a rendering with version 1.9 by night (01:00 AM) with a night texture and the yarafay method... SH3D will crash quicky !!! biggrin

Good search.
wink

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SH3D 7.1 and nothing else - W11 64b in 4K

Posted by enkonyito at Jul 26, 2020, 11:38:39 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

Hi,

Try this :

Launch a rendering with version 1.9 by night (01:00 AM) with a night texture and the yarafay method... SH3D will crash quicky !!! biggrin

Good search.
wink

As you can see here, I have no rendering issues with the textures and sky lighting enabled at night.

From your other post, the problem seems to be with an object in your project that YafaRay is having a hard time rendering.
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EnkoNyito

Posted by bdfd at Jul 27, 2020, 6:56:48 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

... the problem seems to be with an object in your project that YafaRay is having a hard time rendering.

Yes, I arrived at the same conclusion but which one ?

Strange, it's OK in day light and no in night time ???
Never see before this in 10 years of SH3D...

All other projects are OK. wink

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SH3D 7.1 and nothing else - W11 64b in 4K

Posted by enkonyito at Aug 2, 2020, 12:56:55 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
PhotoVideoRendering-2.0a plug-in
- compatibility with version 1.3.2 of YafaRay plug-in

EnkoNyito
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EnkoNyito

Posted by GhyslainB at Aug 3, 2020, 11:01:30 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Thanks enkonyito! Version 2.0a works like a charm! smile

Posted by Ceciliabr at Aug 3, 2020, 6:21:28 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Perfect!
Thank You!

Cecilia

Posted by Atefth at Aug 17, 2020, 7:29:43 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Hello All,

Is there any way to do rendering on GPU ?

Thank you.

Posted by enkonyito at Aug 17, 2020, 10:57:19 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

Hello All,

Is there any way to do rendering on GPU ?

Thank you.

Hi Atefth,

The rendering engines currently available (SunFlow and YafaRay) do not allow GPU rendering.

Enko
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EnkoNyito

Posted by udornbusch at Oct 10, 2020, 9:21:28 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
This sounds silly, but after an hour of trying I cannot see any advanced photo or video rendering options.
I have downloaded and installed "PhotoVideoRendering2.0a.zip" and also tried "YafaryRendering 1.3.2" but in both cases the window that opens for photos shows just the space for the photo and the 'width' and 'quality' lines and the buttons to 'create' and 'close'. There is no options to enter the time etc.
For the photovideorendering plugin there are only 3 options in the plugin drop-down (Simple photo rendering (v2.0a),grayed out multiple.. and Video rendering (v2.0a))
I am using version 6.4.2
I am a bit at a loss as to what to do. Thanks!

Posted by enkonyito at Oct 11, 2020, 9:41:03 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
@udornbusch

This sounds silly, but after an hour of trying I cannot see any advanced photo or video rendering options.
I have downloaded and installed "PhotoVideoRendering2.0a.zip" and also tried "YafaryRendering 1.3.2" but in both cases the window that opens for photos shows just the space for the photo and the 'width' and 'quality' lines and the buttons to 'create' and 'close'. There is no options to enter the time etc.
For the photovideorendering plugin there are only 3 options in the plugin drop-down (Simple photo rendering (v2.0a),grayed out multiple.. and Video rendering (v2.0a))
I am using version 6.4.2
I am a bit at a loss as to what to do. Thanks!

SunFlow or YafaRay rendering engines can only be used at quality level 3 and 4 (best) where the date, time and lens are visible.

The PhotoVideoRendering plug-in also adds to the simple photo panel: the selection of the rendering engine, its advanced settings and the activation of sky lighting.
This is where you have to make the settings that also take effect in the multiple photo panel (stored points of view) or the video panel.

Enko
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Posted by udornbusch at Oct 13, 2020, 8:21:40 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Brilliant, thanks. I didn't try the slider so did not see this which is - once one knows - quite a nifty way to do this; but wasn't obvious to me.
Thanks a lot!

Posted by Xlance at Nov 29, 2020, 3:38:45 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Hello
A magnificent Plugin by all means !
>> I use "CameraBagPlugin" to create hundreds of Cameras Exceeding the 50 Limit, however I must select them one by one in Multi Photo Renderer" select dialogue.

Any chance to add CTRL-A (SELECT ALL) function or
SHIFT-ARROW selection ?

Much appreciated
Vic
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Windows 64bit | Intel i7 | 8GB Ram | SH3D 7.5 + Plugins

Posted by enkonyito at Nov 30, 2020, 3:02:41 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
PhotoVideoRendering-2.1 plug-in

fixed a bug in the management of the default shininessShader (SunFlow renderer)
management of depth of field properties (YafaRay renderer)
improved ambient lighting of ceiling lights (SunFlow and YafaRay renderers)
compatibility with version 1.4 of YafaRay plug-in

Enko
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EnkoNyito

Posted by enkonyito at Nov 30, 2020, 3:03:55 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

Hello
A magnificent Plugin by all means !
>> I use "CameraBagPlugin" to create hundreds of Cameras Exceeding the 50 Limit, however I must select them one by one in Multi Photo Renderer" select dialogue.

Any chance to add CTRL-A (SELECT ALL) function or
SHIFT-ARROW selection ?

Much appreciated
Vic

Maybe in a future version after studying the feasibility.
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EnkoNyito

Posted by Ceciliabr at Dec 2, 2020, 3:16:58 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Hi Enko,

I wonder if you could give us a short explanation about how the different settings behave:

Direct lighting
Ambient occlusion
Path tracing
Photon mapping
SPPM

I like that you have now increased the sample setting from max 16 to max 100.

The SPPM setting is very useful, as you can stop it when it has reached an acceptable quality.

Thank you!

Cecilia

Posted by enkonyito at Dec 2, 2020, 9:38:02 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Hi Cecilia,

I wonder if you could give us a short explanation about how the different settings behave:

Direct lighting
Ambient occlusion
Path tracing
Photon mapping
SPPM

As the YafaRay web site is inaccessible, their team have made their docs available here.

What I can say about the settings I've implemented:
Direct lighting (direct light, hard shadow, equivalent to SunFlow diffusedBounces=0)
Ambient occlusion (direct light, less dark shadow with brightness dependent on time of day)
Path tracing (indirect light, editable number of bounces, caustics visible from 3 bounces)
Photon mapping (indirect light, predefined number of bounces, predefined number of photons)
SPPM (indirect light, predefined number of bounces, predefined number of photons, editable number of passes)

I like that you have now increased the sample setting from max 16 to max 100.

The number of samples per pixel for YafaRay ranges from 1 (min) to 1024 (max).

Correspondence with SunFlow:
antiAliasing 0 = 1 sample per pixel
antiAliasing 1 = 4 samples per pixel
antiAliasing 2 = 16 samples per pixel
antiAliasing 3 = 64 samples per pixel
antiAliasing 4 = 256 samples per pixel
antiAliasing 5 = 1024 samples per pixel

When the YafaRay documentation will be updated on their new web site, it may be possible to properly implement caustic photons.

Enko
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EnkoNyito

Posted by enkonyito at Dec 8, 2020, 2:37:34 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

Maybe in a future version after studying the feasibility.

I was able to add the multiple selection option.

When opening the photos panel, do you prefer?
1- current behavior of the plug-in: 1st point of view selected
2- behavior identical to SH3D: all points of view selected
These will be highlighted.

Selection/deselection using the space key will not be available.
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EnkoNyito

Posted by Baker0052 at Dec 27, 2020, 4:52:44 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Why is the rendering so much slower when i use the Photo-Video Plugin insted the yafaray plugin?

Posted by enkonyito at Dec 29, 2020, 4:32:08 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

Why is the rendering so much slower when i use the Photo-Video Plugin insted the yafaray plugin?

The YafaRayRendering plug-in uses a standard configuration just like the SunFlow rendering engine in the 'Create photo' panel.
The PhotoVideoRendering plug-in uses an advanced configuration to maximize the properties of rendering engines (SunFlow, YafaRay).
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EnkoNyito

Posted by Magokelvin at Jan 3, 2021, 10:03:26 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
dear team... I am not posting so much in this forum... I am really an amateour of SH3D, for my porpuses I reached a good level of satisfaction in rendering. I was excited to read all about thsse rendering new features..but I have a question...
when rendering with the menu optio create photo with yafaray I obtain a bright result (don't know how to post a photo here)
when using the new 2.1 plug in...all of a sudden it becomes all dark?
where do I make mistake?

Posted by Baker0052 at Jan 3, 2021, 8:34:11 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

Why is the rendering so much slower when i use the Photo-Video Plugin insted the yafaray plugin?

Can i disable the "advanced configuration" or can you give me an advise for some settings?
It takes 4-10 times longer with the rendering plugin.
I only need the "Multiple Photo Rendering" function.

Posted by enkonyito at Jan 4, 2021, 2:45:53 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
@Magokelvin

when rendering with the menu optio create photo with yafaray I obtain a bright result (don't know how to post a photo here)
when using the new 2.1 plug in...all of a sudden it becomes all dark?
where do I make mistake?

This How to share images and files post pinned to the forum gallery will be helpful to you.
Then post a screenshot of the Create photo / YafaRay panel with a finished rendering.
Do the same with the Simple photo rendering (v2.1) panel and the properties panel of the selected rendering engine.

These images may help to better understand your problem.

Enko
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Posted by enkonyito at Jan 4, 2021, 3:31:30 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
@Baker0052

Can i disable the "advanced configuration" or can you give me an advise for some settings?
It takes 4-10 times longer with the rendering plugin.
I only need the "Multiple Photo Rendering" function.

The standard or advanced configuration I'm talking about is done internally as for the management of the default rendering engine.
Some parameters are accessible in the rendering properties. I have indicated here the antialiasing correspondence between SunFlow and YafaRay.

Depending on your hardware (number of processor cores, memory allocated to SH3D), I advise you to perform tests in order to find your customization of the parameters.
The 3D scene also plays a lot on the rendering time (number of lighting, shininess of objects, detail of objects).
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Posted by Baker0052 at Jan 4, 2021, 5:30:54 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

@Baker0052

Can i disable the "advanced configuration" or can you give me an advise for some settings?
It takes 4-10 times longer with the rendering plugin.
I only need the "Multiple Photo Rendering" function.

I got dual Xeon Silver 4214 and started java with 48G ram.
It still takes about 1 Hour per picture when i use many lights.

Posted by Magokelvin at Jan 5, 2021, 7:45:37 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
thanks for the hints:-) here we are ..bath 1 ( made via yafaray tool) lights are what I was planning to have in terms of lights...it took roughly 7 hours

https://www.mediafire.com/view/rtvcqctv4ijr7gk/bath1.JPG/file
https://www.mediafire.com/view/hqky9rxvtqt91xs/bath_1.png/file

here with the new tool. I did not finished for it still asking for 33hours to go..
for sure it looks more precise with the reflections - see the toilet paper in the glass - (though less crisp than yafarey one)

However you can see light is darker (I tried different paremeters combinatiosn but no improvements..)

Moreover it seem the diffused light are not switced on in the morning (tried 1% and 100% luminosity) while if you set the clock at 1AM they are on and makes the difference.
https://www.mediafire.com/view/p3y3oah7ijc6gkt/bath2_parameters.JPG/file

https://www.mediafire.com/view/ee632cg46kr17ea/bath2.JPG/file

Posted by enkonyito at Jan 6, 2021, 5:14:36 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
@Magokelvin

thanks for the hints:-) here we are ..bath 1 ( made via yafaray tool) lights are what I was planning to have in terms of lights...it took roughly 7 hours

https://www.mediafire.com/view/rtvcqctv4ijr7gk/bath1.JPG/file
https://www.mediafire.com/view/hqky9rxvtqt91xs/bath_1.png/file

here with the new tool. I did not finished for it still asking for 33hours to go..
for sure it looks more precise with the reflections - see the toilet paper in the glass - (though less crisp than yafarey one)

However you can see light is darker (I tried different paremeters combinatiosn but no improvements..)

Moreover it seem the diffused light are not switced on in the morning (tried 1% and 100% luminosity) while if you set the clock at 1AM they are on and makes the difference.
https://www.mediafire.com/view/p3y3oah7ijc6gkt/bath2_parameters.JPG/file

https://www.mediafire.com/view/ee632cg46kr17ea/bath2.JPG/file

What diffuse light are you talking about?
If you are using the new automatic light sources, it is normal that they are switched off during the day and on at night.
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Posted by Magokelvin at Jan 9, 2021, 5:44:54 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
thanks sorry being late..well, I use a light source as I red in posts here in the forum (see attached link)
https://www.mediafire.com/view/9d4n8af1lg9092t/plabn.JPG/file

THe question however remain why at the same conditions "old" yafaray plugin is much brighter while the new one makes images darker (much darker) at the same light and time conditions...

whatever is the lightsource though, it should be switched off in both cases which is not...in one case it is switched on somehow for If I remove those the imge is totally dark, with the new plug in the image is clearly much darker

HOw should I by your experience to obtain the same brightness of the image of the old one, but benefiting of the new plugin rendering performances? ...

Posted by enkonyito at Jan 11, 2021, 7:51:45 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

THe question however remain why at the same conditions "old" yafaray plugin is much brighter while the new one makes images darker (much darker) at the same light and time conditions...

whatever is the lightsource though, it should be switched off in both cases which is not...in one case it is switched on somehow for If I remove those the imge is totally dark, with the new plug in the image is clearly much darker

If it is not the other types of light that are causing a darker rendering, it is difficult to answer without seeing the project.
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Posted by hansmex at Feb 6, 2021, 9:58:53 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

I downloaded and installed SH3D 6.5 under W10.

Using the Simple Photo Rendering v2.0a all results with Sunflow are VERY dark.
Should I no longer use this plugin?

I managed to reproduce the problem.

Yafaray Q4 - Simple Photo Rendering v2.0a

Sunflow Q4 - Simple Photo Rendering v2.0a

SH3D file

Hans
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Hans

new website - under constuction
hansdirkse.info

Posted by enkonyito at Feb 8, 2021, 3:39:39 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

I downloaded and installed SH3D 6.5 under W10.

Using the Simple Photo Rendering v2.0a all results with Sunflow are VERY dark.
Should I no longer use this plugin?

I managed to reproduce the problem.

Yafaray Q4 - Simple Photo Rendering v2.0a

Sunflow Q4 - Simple Photo Rendering v2.0a

SH3D file

Hans

Hans,

Version 2.1 of the plug-in fixes this regression from version 2.0a.

Enko
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Posted by hansmex at Feb 9, 2021, 3:02:36 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Enko,

Thank you, that was fast!!
I now get the same result as you.

PS - And it also works well under version 6.5 b2.

Hans
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Posted by enkonyito at Mar 6, 2021, 3:24:15 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
PhotoVideoRendering-2.2 plug-in

compatibility with SH3D-6.5 and higher
compatibility with version 1.4.2 of YafaRay plug-in
transparent image background (photo panel, photos panel)
management of multiple selection of points of view (photos panel)
other minor bugs fixes and enhancements

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Posted by enkonyito at Mar 22, 2021, 10:49:50 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
PhotoVideoRendering-2.2a plug-in

fixed a bug for the JPEG format of images (multiple photo rendering)

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Posted by enkonyito at Jul 19, 2021, 3:02:03 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
PhotoVideoRendering-2.3 plug-in

compatibility with version 1.4.4 of YafaRay plug-in
added auto_shadow_bias_enabled property
other minor bugs fixes and enhancements

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Posted by VeroniQ at Jul 19, 2021, 5:39:57 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Thank you, Enkonyito!

Posted by magnetic157 at Dec 14, 2021, 11:38:15 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Hello, hoping someone can help me. I'm running the newest app store version of the program on my mac with MacOS Monterey.

I installed the 2.3 version of the plugin plus the 1.4.4 version of YafaRay. After the image is completed rendering, the save menu doesn't allow me to save the new image. It's almost as if there is a permission issue - I can only see certain directories and when I try to save to them it doesn't save. I doubt this matters, but I tried with all 4 quality settings and get the same result.

The dialog box also does not look the same as if I were to use the native functionality.

v2.3 Save Box

Native SH3D Save Box

Posted by Puybaret at Dec 15, 2021, 12:25:10 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
The dialog box and the folders where you can save are different because of the security options imposed by Apple in recent macOS versions to sandboxed applications coming from the Mac App Store.
You must save the generated image in the Data folder or a sub folder proposed by the dialog box. It's the only way I found out to make it work when a user tries to save a file from a plug-in, but you can move the images afterwards if you want.
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Posted by Xlance at Feb 22, 2022, 6:12:34 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

Maybe in a future version after studying the feasibility.

Works Perfectly using SHIFT-Arrows in v2.3 smile

Many Thanks

BTW
Additional Sunflow Options v1.2 does not work with Simple Photo Rendering v2.3 in any of the Quality levels ?
Am I missing something ?

I'm running Windows 64bit, Sweet Home v6.6
Thank You for an awesome Plugin.
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Posted by enkonyito at Jun 12, 2022, 11:07:47 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
As the YafaRay rendering engine has been added to the source code of the program and it will surely be integrated into the next version of Sweet Home 3D for photo or video rendering with a selector to choose between SunFlow and it, there will be no other public versions of this plugin to avoid confusion in the minds of users.
However, when I have more availability, a plug-in allowing to manage the properties of the 2 rendering engines would be possible.
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Posted by Puybaret at Jul 27, 2022, 6:03:26 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
PhotoVideoRendering-2.4 plug-in

As EnkoNyito is not available at the moment to update his Photo-video rendering plug-in, I made the necessary changes to this plug-in to ensure its compatibility with Sweet Home 3D 7.0 lights defined from a shape with lightSourceMaterialName# property.
Note that the YafaRay rendering engine included in this plug-in doesn't work with the Mac App Store version 7.0.1 and above for security reasons, but works with the free version.
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Posted by enkonyito at Aug 3, 2022, 11:47:58 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
The source code is also available here.
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Posted by enkonyito at Sep 4, 2022, 5:14:10 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

PhotoVideoRendering-2.4 plug-in

As EnkoNyito is not available at the moment to update his Photo-video rendering plug-in, I made the necessary changes to this plug-in to ensure its compatibility with Sweet Home 3D 7.0 lights defined from a shape with lightSourceMaterialName# property.
Note that the YafaRay rendering engine included in this plug-in doesn't work with the Mac App Store version 7.0.1 and above for security reasons, but works with the free version.

With the old YafaRay Rendering plug-in, you had to use the lib folder of the com.eteks.sweethome3d.plugin.yafarayrendering package to load the necessary DLLs.
Sweet Home 3D 7.0, uses the "com.eteks.sweethome3d.j3d.YafarayPluginsFolder" system property which causes the error:

Exception in thread "pool-9-thread-1" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: com.eteks.sweethome3d.j3d.AdvancedYafarayRenderer.createEnvironment(Ljava/lang/String;Ljava/lang/String;)J
	at com.eteks.sweethome3d.j3d.AdvancedYafarayRenderer.createEnvironment(Native Method)
	at com.eteks.sweethome3d.j3d.AdvancedYafarayRenderer.init(AdvancedYafarayRenderer.java:357)
	at com.eteks.sweethome3d.j3d.AdvancedYafarayRenderer.render(AdvancedYafarayRenderer.java:849)
	at com.eteks.sweethome3d.j3d.AdvancedAbstractPhotoRenderer.render(AdvancedAbstractPhotoRenderer.java:15
7)

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Posted by Puybaret at Sep 4, 2022, 11:30:53 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Sorry, I forgot to mention here that I released the version 2.4.1 to fix a bug reported by Captaincook about invisible lights which had no effect with SunFlow.

EnkoNyito, Iâ€™m not sure what you want to do or what problem you encountered. Can you explain how you got the error you reported?
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Posted by enkonyito at Sep 4, 2022, 6:33:55 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
In version 2.4.1, the com.eteks.sweethome3d.plugin.yafarayrendering package containing the YafarayRenderer.java file is used to load the necessary DLLs.

In Sweet Home 3D 7.0, the YafarayRenderer.java file (subclass of AbstractPhotoRenderer) is contained in the com.eteks.sweethome3d.j3d package.

By not including the com.eteks.sweethome3d.plugin.yafarayrendering package in the plug-in and by using the new loading of the DLLs of the file YafarayRenderer.java of SH3D-7.0, we have the error above.

By opening the default photo panel first, the error returned is:

java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Native Library C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp\com.eteks.sweethome3d.SweetHome3D-cache-yafaray-64-43014161-1659389236\libwinpthread-1.dll already loaded in another classloader
	at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary0(Unknown Source)
	at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary(Unknown Source)
	at java.lang.Runtime.load0(Unknown Source)
	at java.lang.System.load(Unknown Source)
	at com.eteks.sweethome3d.j3d.AdvancedYafarayRenderer.<clinit>(AdvancedYafarayRenderer.java:248)
	at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
	at java.lang.Class.forName(Unknown Source)
	at com.eteks.sweethome3d.j3d.AdvancedAbstractPhotoRenderer.createInstance(AdvancedAbstractPhotoRenderer
.java:95)

Is it better to use the DLLs present in lib/yafaray of SweetHome3D-7.0 or in com/eteks/swethome3d/plugin/yafarayrendering/lib of the YafarayRendering-1.4.5 plugin?
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Posted by Puybaret at Sep 5, 2022, 2:49:47 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
It would be better to reuse the DLLs available in Sweet Home 3D in your plug-in, but then you'll get the error you reported. As removing these DLLs from your plug-in will prevent it to work with older versions of Sweet Home 3D, I think it's better to keep them with your plug-in for the moment.
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Posted by varigonda at Sep 15, 2022, 10:39:42 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
My simple photo rendering is stopping in between without showing any progress. and when i stop the rendering then save button is not visible at this time (When it is stuck).

i am using mac 10.12 , simple photo rendering 2.4.1 .

after in progressed for couple of hours then it stuck then there is no way to retrieve photo it created. need help in fixing this issue . At least can you please let me know how to retrieve photo it created till that point.

Below are setting i am using.

1) depth of field and best quality with sky light on.
2) below are advanced settings

AA_minsamples 16
lighting method sppm
normallens.radios 0.1
remaining all default settings.

Posted by YGYL at Oct 5, 2022, 4:59:27 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Found a bug, when the sky box texture is set, SUNFLOW engine rendering ray tracing will become completely black

Posted by enkonyito at Oct 5, 2022, 6:49:58 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
@varigonda
When you click on Stop, the Save button becomes available if rendering has stopped correctly and it is possible to save your image. If not, your rendering has terminated abnormally.

@YGYL
To use Path global illumination with a sky texture, sky lighting must be enabled.
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Posted by enkonyito at Dec 31, 2022, 7:54:43 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
@Puybaret

It would be better to reuse the DLLs available in Sweet Home 3D in your plug-in, but then you'll get the error you reported. As removing these DLLs from your plug-in will prevent it to work with older versions of Sweet Home 3D, I think it's better to keep them with your plug-in for the moment.

Indeed, it is more practical to keep the YafarayRendering-1.4.5 plug-in dlls otherwise it would have been necessary to create a version derived from SweetHome3D-7.0.
A question that has nothing to do. How to modify the luminosity of the sky (color or texture) as it is already the case for the ground with Java3D (3D view)?
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Posted by enkonyito at Mar 31, 2023, 10:43:54 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
PhotoVideoRendering-2.5 plug-in

compatibility with SH3D-7.0 and higher
added Java3D rendering engine
compatibility with the new OtherLightTypes libraries

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Posted by hansmex at Apr 1, 2023, 6:58:17 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Enko,

Thank you for this fantastic update.

To test, I made 3 renders of the same file (see below).
From left to right: Sunflow, Java, Yafaray.
I notice strange "light bars" in the Yafaray render.

https://www.mediafire.com/view/kh0sl930wgeyuwb/Klochenko_3_renders.PNG/file

Is there an explanation, or is it a bug? (original file )

Hans
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new website - under constuction
hansdirkse.info

Posted by Vinci68 at Apr 1, 2023, 12:22:30 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Hello hansmex
Indeed in yafaray I have the same rendering:
https://www.mediafire.com/view/ys0oq0iapc335d6/Klochenko_A-house2.png/file
Strange !

Posted by bdfd at Apr 4, 2023, 9:39:47 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
With the newest PVR 2.5, I've got this :

Why ?

FYI : my PC - Core i9, RAM = 32 Go, GC = RTX 2080
...
Version OpenJDK 11.0.18 - 64bit - 2,8 / 13,6 Go fournie par Azul Systems, Inc. Version Java 3D 1.6.2a - JOGL 2.4.0-rc-20221118 fournie

biggrin

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Posted by enkonyito at Apr 5, 2023, 7:06:12 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
@hansmex, @Vinci68,
The "light bars" observed with the YafaRay rendering engine are due to the light panels created when the Add ceiling lights option is checked, so this is normal.
For information, the dlls used are those of the YafarayRendering-1.4.5 plug-in.

I just noticed the bug with SunFlow because these same light panels are no longer taken into account since compatibility with SH3D-7.0.
If this is not easily correctable and given that the option is not optimal according to the shape of the ceilings, the default behavior of SweetHome3D can be restored.

@bdfd,
This error message replaces the red cross of a default rendering. It appears when the memory allocated to SH3D is not sufficient to render an object which may have a certain complexity.
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Posted by bdfd at Apr 7, 2023, 5:12:17 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
TY.

Occasional problem that has not reappeared since!

To monitor...

wink

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Posted by Daniels118 at Apr 11, 2023, 1:50:04 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
The Photo-video rendering plug-in is now available through the Plugin manager!

Posted by enkonyito at Apr 21, 2023, 9:58:09 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
PhotoVideoRendering-2.5.1 plug-in

fixed a bug in ceiling light panels for SunFlow renderer
improved shape of ceiling light panels (SunFlow & YafaRay renderers)
taking into account the point of view renderer

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Posted by enkonyito at Oct 1, 2023, 2:37:26 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
PhotoVideoRendering-2.6 plug-in

compatibility with SH3D-7.2 and higher
taking into account of the new OtherLightTypes library

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Posted by captaincook at Oct 4, 2023, 12:50:17 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Bonjour enkonyito.

J'ai installÃ© la nouvelle version du plug-in PhotoVideoRendering-2.6 et elle fonctionne bien.

Mais par contre sur mes fichiers prÃ©cÃ©dents avec lesquels j'utilisais la version prÃ©cÃ©dente 2.5.1 et les panneaux lumineux de la prÃ©cÃ©dente OtherLighTypes library, ceux ci ne sont plus pris en compte.

Il me faut donc, si je souhaite refaire des images dans mes anciens fichiers, soit remplacer tous les anciens panneaux lumineux par des nouveaux panneaux, soit rÃ©aliser ces images en rÃ© installant provisoirement la version 2.5.1 .

Peut Ãªtre n'ai je pas compris quelque chose.

Merci en tout cas pour tout le travail que vous faites et bonne journÃ©e.

Posted by enkonyito at Oct 4, 2023, 4:25:49 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
captaincook, let me answer in English.

Version 2.6 of the plug-in, takes into account these 2 updates of Sweet Home 3D 7.2:

Fixed textures transparency in YafaRay rendering
Managed user-defined properties defined in com.eteks.sweethome3d.additionalFurnitureProperties System property

For the new lights library, the lightSourceDescription property is used for variable lights (daylight or automatic) instead of the Description field.
With version 2.5.1 of the plug-in, the risk was that these variable lights would no longer be taken into account if the user changed the Description field.

Non-variable lights from the old library can be used with version 2.6 of the plug-in.

Since version 2.5 of the plug-in, the lights library uses the lightSourceMaterialName property.
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Posted by captaincook at Oct 5, 2023, 12:29:56 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Bonjour enkonyito et merci pour votre rÃ©ponse.

J'ai donc continuÃ© Ã utiliser la nouvelle version 2.6.
Et j'ai fait diffÃ©rents essais sur un mÃªme point de vue avec Ã chaque image la mÃªme date et la mÃªme heure ainsi que des panneaux lumineux intÃ©rieurs et extÃ©rieurs aux mÃªmes emplacements.

J'ai essayÃ© les 3 types de panneaux non visualisables (automatique, lumiÃ¨re du jour et permanent) avec les 2 possibilitÃ©s de crÃ©ation d'images ("Rendu photo simple (2.6)" dans l'onglet "Rendu photo-vidÃ©o" et "CrÃ©er une photo" dans l'onglet "Vue 3D".
Les rÃ©glages d'intensitÃ© lumineuse des panneaux sont identiques dans les 6 images suivantes.

Posted by enkonyito at Dec 18, 2023, 5:25:55 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
PhotoVideoRendering-2.6.1 plug-in

taking into account elevation dimensions (SH3D-7.2)

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Posted by Schaddai at Jan 1, 2024, 4:06:35 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Dear all,
I have the problem that the menu items of the time of day settings are not displayed. Can anyone help me? Plug-in PhotoVideorendering V2.6.1

Best regards

Posted by Puybaret at Jan 2, 2024, 8:31:00 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Choose one of the two best quality levels.
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Posted by enkonyito at Jan 9, 2024, 1:27:50 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
PhotoVideoRendering-2.6.2 plug-in

taking into account the color modification of integrated light sources

Translation guide:
1- Download the English version of the template to translate
2- Replace "translationTemplate" with the 2-letter suffix of your language
3- Indicate the language and the name of the translator in the file header
3- Translate the text after the = sign in the file
4- Replace the .sh3p extension of the plugin with .zip
5- In the sh3dPlugin folder, paste your translated .properties file
6- Replace the .zip extension of the plugin with .sh3p
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EnkoNyito

Posted by Waldemar.Hersacher at Jan 10, 2024, 9:59:09 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
I have created a German translation based now on the translation template.

What is the preferred way to distribute it to public?
- You will integrate it into the plugin
- I will supply the download and people who needs the German text will integrate it themself.
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Posted by enkonyito at Jan 12, 2024, 2:59:41 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
@Waldemar.Hersacher

You can send me your translation to integrate it into the next version of the plugin and if there are any changes, I will get back to you.

In the meantime, you can also share it on the SH3D forum and possibly on SourgeForge if you have an account there.
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Posted by Waldemar.Hersacher at Jan 15, 2024, 9:09:37 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
I have send the file to enkonyito and uploaded to SourceForge.
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Posted by enkonyito at Jan 18, 2024, 2:59:19 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Regarding the issue raised here, would you prefer to keep the current plug-in menu or have it use the 3D View menu?
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Posted by Waldemar.Hersacher at Jan 18, 2024, 9:37:32 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
I always used the plug-in menu. I used the 3D View only for fine adjustments for the positions.
I have positioned the visitor in a door. In 3D View I could look into the room but the photo was complete black. I discovered that when the nose of the visitor icon is within the room and the coordinates are within the wall the 3D View will not be black but the photo. I need to move the visitor into the room (mostly 3 or 4 mouse wheel ticks) to have a not black photo. To check the correct position I started a low pixel (320 x 180) rendering.
I have the 3D view always in a separate window occuping the full screen so starting from 3D View will be a little bit easier.
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Posted by Waldemar.Hersacher at Jan 18, 2024, 9:49:15 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
I also save the camera positions. My work flow is to store all camera positions using the low pixel rendering and do the full pixel rendering afterwards. Since the rendering takes up to an hour and I will not let the laptop run over night it is easier to start the next day from the menu. You should keep the plug in menu entry.
Other texts are also affected.
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Posted by enkonyito at Jan 19, 2024, 1:48:10 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
After noting that the plug-in actions were not accessible by right-clicking in the 3D view even if they had been added to this menu, your remark and that of Puybaret concerning the use of a standard user confirms that the current menu is maintained.

I have positioned the visitor in a door. In 3D View I could look into the room but the photo was complete black.

This is an inherent behavior of Sweet Home 3D.
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Posted by enkonyito at Jan 25, 2024, 10:59:17 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
PhotoVideoRendering-2.7 plug-in

initialization with Sweet Home 3D default rendering settings
basic components common to Sweet Home 3D
dynamic translation after language change (except menu)
German translation by Waldemar Hersacher

The ApplicationPlugin_en.properties template file is included in the zipped folder.
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Posted by chipster123 at Jan 28, 2024, 4:43:49 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
How do i get the "Create photos at points of view" multi-photo interface to allow selecting the time of day to use in the render? I have tried sliding the selector to level 3 and level 4 and no advanced settings show up like they do for single photo option.

Posted by enkonyito at Jan 29, 2024, 3:19:16 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
The "Create photos at points of view" panel allows you to automatically create photos from previously stored points of view with the date, time and the chosen rendering engine.
So you need to set these settings in the "Create photo" panel first before storing the desired points of view.
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Posted by Dmitriy_the_Wombat at Feb 25, 2024, 2:08:26 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Hello! Sorry if I am writing in a wrong section of forum, but I have some problems with Light Panels plugin, Photo-video rendering plug-in or both of them. I have tried to use Light panel to highlight screens of my devices but for some reasons Light Panels not worked as I expected, It lights like panel highlighted with normal bulb not like evenly illuminated panel. Maybe there is a problem with incompatibility of different versions of plugins and SweetHome3D version. Or maybe I am doing something wrong ))) Example of render and all important info about system, plugins and render settings are on my screenshot. Many thanks in advance for any help ))

Posted by captaincook at Feb 26, 2024, 1:20:31 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Bonjour.

Je ne sais pas si Ã§a rÃ©pond Ã votre question et si Ã§a peut vous aider Ã rÃ©soudre votre problÃ¨me.

L'image ci-dessous montre un Ã©cran TV Ã©teint et Ã©clairÃ© par un panneau non visualisable permanent, puissance lumineuse rÃ©glÃ©e Ã 9%.

https://ibb.co/84v0qz9

Posted by enkonyito at Feb 26, 2024, 4:39:35 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
@Dmitriy_the_Wombat

Since Sweet Home 3D 7.0, light panels are available in the LightShapes library by Emmanuel Puybaret (Invisible light panel) and the OtherLightTypes-1.5 library by myself (Unviewable panel - permanent).
These can be used with Sweet Home 3D's default photo panel and photo plug-in.
Consider uninstalling older versions of libraries if they are not replaced automatically.
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Posted by Karoly at Feb 26, 2024, 7:42:57 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
I'm joining, I'm having the same problem and I'm looking for a solution too.
Rendering with light bodies. In the designs I made a few years ago, the light panels appear strangely on the render images, whether visible or invisible, or of any shape, a small ball of light or a dark circle appears in the middle in each case. Of course, the sh3d version changed in the meantime. Now 7.2 and the latest plugins.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/gmgj75b57qihr8...5y34m23gc2w7n85h&dl=0

What can I do like this?
1. Should I go back to version 6.6 (on one of my PCs), but I don't remember what light kit is needed?
2. Should I replace the lighting bodies one by one with the new verzo lights (light panels), which is not a small job?
3. Or something else?

Now I'm at a loss, is there a good solution for this? Thank you!

Posted by Dmitriy_the_Wombat at Feb 26, 2024, 8:11:06 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
@enkonyito

Many Thanks! Newer version of Lights library (1.5) finally solved my problem )))

Posted by enkonyito at Feb 28, 2024, 3:16:36 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

I'm joining, I'm having the same problem and I'm looking for a solution too.
Rendering with light bodies. In the designs I made a few years ago, the light panels appear strangely on the render images, whether visible or invisible, or of any shape, a small ball of light or a dark circle appears in the middle in each case. Of course, the sh3d version changed in the meantime. Now 7.2 and the latest plugins.

@Karoly

If you want to keep the old light panels (not using the lightSourceMaterialName# property) from your previous projects, you must use a compatible version of the plug-in, i.e. before PhotoVideoRendering-2.5 .
Even though it works with Sweet Home 3D 7.2, you won't benefit from the latest fixes or improvements.
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Posted by Puybaret at Feb 28, 2024, 5:47:53 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Enkonyito, it's great you could adapt your plug-in to the way light panels are handled in version 7.0. But I wonder if it would have been possible to keep backward compatibility with the first light panels you created, because I fear that the issues reported by the Dmitriy_the_Wombat and Karoly may happen to more users. What do you think?
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Posted by enkonyito at Mar 1, 2024, 2:08:13 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Emmanuel, I had started working on simplifying the public version of the plug-in so that its use was close to the software while keeping the most useful additional options.

As the next version will no longer manage my variable lights (automatic and daylight) because they are too complex, it would be possible to ensure backward compatibility with other old light panels.

I could then publish a beta version in case the next version of Sweet Home 3D makes changes in the photo-video rendering unless this is not planned.
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Posted by enkonyito at Mar 10, 2024, 3:32:42 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Backward compatibility with my old light sources can be tested with this PVR-beta-2.8 version.
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Posted by Karoly at Mar 13, 2024, 7:18:58 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Thanks Enko, I'm starting to see more clearly! I run SH3D on two PCs with similar capabilities, version 6.6 on one and version 7.2 on the other. Everything is fine, so I can run my older and newer designs and modify them as I want. Maybe later I will also try the suggestion regarding the 7.2 version.

Karoly

Posted by Xlance at Mar 27, 2024, 8:38:33 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Good Day
l just wish to note that the plugin is capable of rendering at very large resolutions uoto 16384x16384 pixels ðŸ˜Š
(I just needed to recompile the source to increase the spinner max range to 16384 from 10000 pixels).
Thank you
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Posted by enkonyito at Apr 8, 2024, 12:09:06 AM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
PhotoVideoRendering-2.8 plug-in

properties of the photo-video creation panels identical to Sweet Home 3D
not taking into account EnkoNyito's variable lights (automatic and daylight)
backward compatibility with older EnkoNyito light sources
fixed an issue with the progress bar display during simultaneous renderings
impossibility of producing a video rendering simultaneously with a photo rendering

The initial size of the plug-in (15.5MB), all operating systems, exceeds the limit allowed to be attached on SourceForge.
This will be available by operating system so remember to download the appropriate version.

PhotoVideoRendering-2.8-linux.zip
PhotoVideoRendering-2.8-macosx.zip
PhotoVideoRendering-2.8-windows-x64.zip
PhotoVideoRendering-2.8-windows-x86.zip

[Note from Emmanuel Puybaret]
As SourceForge fixed the issue on attachments, I allowed myself to release a version 2.8 of the plug-in for all systems on April 18, 2024. It's accessible with the following link:
PhotoVideoRendering-2.8.zip
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Posted by Waldemar.Hersacher at Apr 8, 2024, 9:11:15 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Hello,

I'm missing the German translation. SH3D is version 7.3. The button and the check box are in English.
The dialogs are also in English.

Additionally the check box is active and disabled. In previous versions it is inactive and enabled.

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MSI GP60, Linux Mint 21.3 Virginia base: Ubuntu 22.04 jammy, SH3D 7.5 with Photo-video rendering 2.8

Posted by Waldemar.Hersacher at Apr 8, 2024, 9:18:22 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
The German properties file is in the archive.
Also changing the language forth and back does not change it.
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Posted by enkonyito at Apr 10, 2024, 9:29:33 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

I'm missing the German translation. SH3D is version 7.3. The button and the check box are in English.
The dialogs are also in English.

This is a regression due to careless copy/paste.
File to replace in the archive to take full account of the German translation.

Additionally the check box is active and disabled. In previous versions it is inactive and enabled.

This is the normal behavior of this new version which is intended to be most similar to that of Sweet Home 3D.
By default, sky lighting is implicitly enabled and non-editable in aerial view while it is disabled in virtual visit.

If this is too disturbing, I created a small plug-in to reproduce the properties of the aerial view camera in that of the virtual visitor.
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Posted by captaincook at Apr 16, 2024, 4:56:57 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Bonjour enkonyito.

Une petite question.
J'ai installÃ© la version PhotoVideoRendering-2.8-windows-x64.zip sur mon PC qui avait avant la version 2.7.
Et j'ai remarquÃ© que l'Ã©clairage du ciel Ã©tait activÃ© par dÃ©faut sans possibilitÃ© apparemment de le dÃ©sactiver.

Est ce normal ?

Merci et encore bravo pour toute votre implication pour Sweet Home.

Posted by Puybaret at Apr 16, 2024, 5:52:51 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
From the message of Enkonyito posted just before yours, sky lighting is implicitly enabled and non-editable in aerial view while it is disabled in virtual visit. So you should use Virtual visit mode to unselect this checkbox.

For your information, Enkonyito requested to disable his account on this forum and at SourceForge.net. This probably means that we won't see him contributing to Sweet Home 3D anymore! sad

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Posted by Keet at Apr 16, 2024, 6:45:07 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in

For your information, Enkonyito requested to disable his account on this forum and at SourceForge.net. This probably means that we won't see him contributing to Sweet Home 3D anymore! sad

I'm very sorry to hear that we lost such a valued and appreciated member. There must have been more than just his frustration with sourceforge because Emmanuel offered to host his plugins if sourceforge continued to give problems. I have offered him the same.
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Posted by hansmex at Apr 16, 2024, 7:01:21 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
sad

What a loss
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Posted by captaincook at Apr 16, 2024, 10:19:46 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Merci pour votre message, Emmanuel.
J'aurais dÃ» mieux lire ce qu'avait Ã©crit enkonyito.

Et je suis aussi vraiment dÃ©solÃ© d'apprendre son dÃ©part de ce forum.
Il a tellement apportÃ© Ã nous tous.

Posted by LCMBN at May 31, 2024, 3:06:48 PM

Re: Photo-video rendering plug-in
Sorry for the doubt, but in OtherLightTypes version 1.5 what is the real difference between "automatic", "daylight" and "permanent". In rendering tests I didn't notice a difference.

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