Make a guess...

Sometimes beds are drawn in bedrooms, take those as a guideline and set them as 200 or 210 cm in length.
Kitchen sinks are usually around 60 cms deep, you could take those.
It's not perfect, but better than nothing.
Use the zoom function to enlarge your background image.

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..take those as a guideline and set them as 200 or 210 cm in length...

..a wild guess as nothing that allows an auto gauge even if i have the total area in sqft...

Or sometimes 190cm outside Holland/Scandinavia
Hansmex' advice is good as there is usually some identifiable length somewhere in the drawing (pick the longest). Even a door/window could give an approximate result as long as the proportions are correct.
Actually, if you have the area, you might be able to make an estimation of the length of one wall. After you have the approximation (I would not call it a wild guess). You can go back and adjust. Create a room in the drawing and see how well it matches the area you have. Then you can change the measurements in the background drawing. When you start drawing a couple of walls, often the lengths will become apparent as there are often some standard measurements in a plan.

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..let me see how I can upload the drawing on google drive or dropbox and see if anyone can guide a stupid me from there...

I once asked a local fisherman that I could not understand how he could navigate his boat through an archipelago avoiding every numerous, unmarked, underwater rock. His answer was: "How do you think I found them?" Your question is not stupid, I only reply because I have wasted some time trying to figure it out

... anyways as mentioned, I included a floorplan i wanted to draw in general, its a 1,066 sqft 3 bedders unit. Was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction with a visual image as I understand you and Hansmex was telling me some dimensions, so maybe a visual would be better to explain...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/cufix2uuvfyeicc/Brooks%201066sqft.jpg?dl=0

... I have to make a wild guess as nothing that allows an auto gauge even if i have the total area in sqft

..a room with an outline that mimics the precise outline...
Or did I miss something...?

Did you see the Hans's work (on first page) ? No, because Hans has solved the problem very well by giving his file !

Seems we are all saying pretty much the same thing.

Has he? Well, that's splendid!

..uncertainty as to the interpretation of the term "total area"...

..the "footprint" will probably not give us the exact size down to the millimetre...

Please order me a double Laphroaig, no ice

Try this file , took me al of 10 minutes.

Ah yes, not too much to go on in you drawing. Here is what you could do to estimate a long line in the drawing so it scales correctly in SH3D.
- Assume a rectangle top wall and right wall (incl lift shaft), shape is not the same, but area looks roughtly like the size of the flat.
- Imaginary overlay rectangle is 238×390 pixels, a ratio of 0,61:1.
- So the right wall from top of lift shaft to corner is roughly the square root of area/0,61 = 41.8 ft.
- In SH3D, import drawing and set the measurement along the right wall (including lift shaft) to 41.8 ft (≈ 41'10").
- Draw a room inside the flat and see what SH3D reports the area to be (advanced editing plugin is useful to scale room sketch).
- If area is too small, increase the length in the background image (or vice versa).
- Measure different distances in the flat and see if they make sense, and adjust again if necessary. As hansmex said, look for standard measures such as door width, kitchen top width, tub width etc.
- Once you have the background plan (fairly) correct, delete all the test sketches an start drawing.

Sent you a quick test by mail not really knowing the floor area calculation (different in different countries), but I assumed the green area was supposed to be 1066 sqft. Result (or original) not sufficiently accurate for millimetre construction or official purposes. But test indicates that the guesstimate is reasonably close, probably as close as possible given the original.

Good luck.

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PS. Just noticed that hansmex has posted a very similar file. My assumption was that all of the green area was 1066 sqft (see above), but I may be wrong.

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No, you don't have to guess. You just make a room with an outline that mimics the precise outline of the total area of your floor plan, and then SH3D will give you the areal of this outline. Then you can see what percentage you have to increase or decrease your outline with in order to match the areal on your floor plan. This should give you the correct size.

Or did I miss something...?


cec

Did you see the Hans's work (on first page) ?

No, because Hans has solved the problem very well by giving his file !

... even saves you the trouble of calculating the areal of your copy – you really don't have to calculate anything but the percentage to get it right. You can even use a free percentage calculator found on the net.

Agree... but the suggestion was not for you...
One Laphroaig coming up, ( double is still not allowed in Norway, is it?) and might I join you with my Japanese Nikka Coffey Grain?

Yes, but there seems to be some uncertainty as to the interpretation of the term "total area".
Total area equals the size of the plan measured on the outside walls.

But of course, you miss out on the geometry fun.

PS cec - The country banning double-measure drinks also appears to have complicated rules for area measurements... In fact, I could not even find a Danish Wikipedia article on the topic.

@sorrow Never mind the imaginary pink overlay and guesstimate, that was just an answer to your initial question, estimation of distance based on area. How to insert an image quickly, without having to draw the outline, approximately the right size (as it happens, it was pretty much spot on, but that includes some luck).

What counts is what I believe we all say: Use a correctly shaped room the right size and adjust the background image accordingly. As cec kindly points out: "...we will have to make an outline anyway, to check if we have got the total area correct". She is of course, absolutely right in pointing out that my first area to distance exercise has very limited value (except for the geometry fun, of course).

Peeked at hansmex' and my drawings. hansmex has drawn the room roughly equal to how gross area often is measured in Europe. And close to what I would have done if it were not for the green area in your drawing. I took the green area as a hint of the 1066sqft and outlined the room shape along the green (forget pink rectangle) . So if you want the green area to be 1066sqft, use mine. If you want hansmex' outline to equal 1066ft, use his. We did the same thing, just using slightly different assumptions of what should be measured.

Which is more correct is impossible to say without knowing exactly what is to be included in the 1066sqft (and having some more information). Still, the scale difference between the two files is only some 2%. That may not matter much unless you are using the plan for construction. And neither drawing claims 100% accuracy anyway.

@cec Thanks, it is a certainly a relief to know that Danes at least have some rules! Double measured drinks allowed! Next thing you will tell me is that Danes can buy wine in normal stores! Pretty close to anarchy if you ask me. No wonder you are coming North for your holidays...

Wikipedia - Hakkespettboken - se, nå kommer også det til å sitte fast i minnet. Som da Facebook skulle hete fjesbok, men fjøsbok ble sittende i mitt bakhode.

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