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Posted by VeroniQ at Jun 26, 2018, 10:30:21 PM
New demo?
Hello the community!
You may have noticed that, since the version 5.5, the new "New home from demo" item has appeared in the "File" menu, with 9 types of homes, from a Studio to a 4-Bedroom house.

We would like to know how useful you found these demos and whether some more should be added. We would like to add at least 3 more homes and would be pleased to read your suggestions. Don’t hesitate to post in this thread your ideas, pictures, plans… that we could use as a source of inspiration.
Thank you!

Posted by dorin at Jul 1, 2018, 1:34:22 PM
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While nobody replay yet I emit my opinion:
I think that 9 demo could be enough while they cover the basic.
Of course could be more if deserve the purpose: to be a start point.
It's only an opinion!
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Posted by okh at Jul 2, 2018, 8:21:17 AM
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..the purpose: to be a start point...
That, and a tutorial to demonstrate how things can be done and what is possible.

I really like the idea of the demos, yet admit I have only looked quickly at them. But I suspect that may have to do with the fact that I work with a local building style. And possibly a dash of vanity wanting to do everything myself.

That said, I guess I would spend more time on the demos if I knew they were real, recognised "best practice" constructions. Of course, one where copyright is not a problem (either by permission or otherwise) E.g.

1) A (small) building designed by one of the great architects, recognised as having special, innovative qualities. Could be an old one, known for superiority in function or beauty.
2) A modern construction addressing special requirements on an international level - especially the new ones on energy - preferably a plan which includes explanations in the plan and/or (information#) web-links. In the EU (often in harmony with international work elsewhere), standards are emerging that will change the way houses are constructed.

Just a thought - but as Dorin says - the topic deserves attention and replies.

ok

Posted by bdfd at Jul 2, 2018, 9:08:36 AM
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Hello,

It's a great thing for beginners looking for some answers.

For others and I agree with previous opinions, do these models meet current standards?

I think of course (for France) the RT2012 standard and soon the RT 2020 which makes mandatory the buildings with positive energy …

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Posted by VeroniQ at Jul 3, 2018, 9:15:11 PM
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Many thanks for your answers and these propositions.
To answer to some remarks:
As Emmanuel mentions it in the blog article about the version 5.5 , these 9 plans were reviewed by an architect, Loïc Le Rumeur, from the AASR architectural firm in Paris. I follow his recommandations about walls thickness, minimum rooms sizes, location of the maximum loadbearing walls and two or three suggestions about some staircases disposition.
But I am afraid that these demos haven't any innovative or artistic qualities or don't respect ecological standard or "good practices”, even if I am sensitive to all of these subjects (and will prepare, soon or later, some interviews around these subjects).
For architectural purposes, I relay here the slightly more accurate blog interview of Archionline in which you can also study (and download 2 of them) 12 plans designed, this time, by architects.

I'm aware also that the existing demos reflect a geolocated way of living and any ideas of more international or, on the contrary, local style (a hut, a ryad, a farm, a chalet ?…) are still welcomed.

Posted by bdfd at Jul 4, 2018, 6:10:01 AM
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There is plenty of compliance with the reality that has already been issued by many of us in the whislist section.

I will take again one of the most important (for me in the representation of 2D plans) is that of the composition of the walls...



Sorry, picture in french only.


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Posted by VeroniQ at Jul 5, 2018, 9:17:39 AM
Re: New demo?
Thank you, bdfd! How many centimeters at the end?

Posted by bdfd at Jul 5, 2018, 10:38:13 AM
Re: New demo?
Thank you, bdfd! How many centimeters at the end?
Hi Vero,

nothing "easier" ! wink

It suffices to use the principle of groups to consitute different sections of a wall.
And to attribute to this group the same properties of a classic wall ...

I created walls of this type but the final object remained an object and not a wall... so put doors and windows ... impossible ! biggrin
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Posted by enkonyito at Jul 5, 2018, 2:10:26 PM
Re: New demo?
Hi VeroniQ,

I am mainly looking for projects with good indoor natural light.
The French Thermal Regulation 2012 advises a minimum of about 17% (ratio of the surface of the external openings to the area of the rooms).

It would be interesting to render in indirect light (globalIllumination=path) a riad as it has an open courtyard.

Enko
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Posted by bdfd at Jul 6, 2018, 7:22:11 AM
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Hi,

Each country and even each region has its own urban planning rules. biggrin

That's why an igloo will always be different from a riad.

It is the climate that defines the shape of the building… wink

Several examples of this type would be appreciated …

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Posted by Mike53 at Jul 7, 2018, 11:03:35 PM
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Hi enkonyito
Would something like This be any good to you, its set up as shops/ cafe ground floor, offices 1st floor then 2 levels of apartments, i've not done anything with the interiors as i felt they were'nt really needed, if you can use it then feel free to do any mods you like as i just fancied the challenge when i saw your earlier comment. smile
Here is an image made with all default settings (1.5)took about an hour at 1600 pixel width, i did set to path but estimate was 6 hrs on my steam powered pc, so i stopped it. biggrin



Mike

Posted by rontant at Jul 8, 2018, 5:57:46 AM
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I am mainly looking for projects with good indoor natural light.


@enkonyito, I'd be glad to share with you my file. Not a riad but it may be what you need. I'll upload it and pm you the link if you are interested. Just let me know.





Posted by okh at Jul 8, 2018, 1:02:45 PM
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Seems there may be a competition for the new demo smile Love atrium houses - and it is not a bad idea for a new demo. Even if they are of little use at 60° with high sun <7° above the horizon in winter...

Posted by VeroniQ at Jul 9, 2018, 12:04:00 AM
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Many thanks for your propositions. I like the idea of a house with a patio. Well done, Mike53!
Beautiful design, also, rontant, but the ninth demo is a house a little bit like that.
And what do you think about a chalet?

Posted by enkonyito at Jul 9, 2018, 4:42:47 PM
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@Mike53
i did set to path but estimate was 6 hrs on my steam powered pc, so i stopped it
I think a path global illumination over 4h is long especially since I double the width of the final image to reduce the noise caused by this type of rendering even if I start up it at night.


@rontant
I'd be glad to share with you my file. Not a riad but it may be what you need.
Thank you for your proposition. To see later, why not?
Recently, I made a "classic" rendering of a project with large windows and a ceiling height of about 4m.


@VeroniQ
And what do you think about a chalet?
A chalet with exposed beams would be nice. In the mountains or at the water's edge? And why not both?
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Posted by bdfd at Jul 10, 2018, 7:14:49 AM
Re: New demo?
Hello Véro,

A building with a dozen of floors would be good.

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