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Knubbi
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Option to enter a wall length minus the wall thickness

Wouldn't it be nice to have an additional option in the wall drawing tooltip to enter the length minus the wall thickness?

Screenshot: http://screencast.com/t/PqWSXDnGjBDJ

It would make it easier to draw rooms if you have the inner dimensions of a room.

What do you think?
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Re: Option to enter a wall length minus the wall thickness

Displaying the length this way would work only if you draw a closed convex room.
What about internal walls that will be used to separate rooms in a home?
What about concave rooms?
What about convex rooms with angles different than 90°?
There's no way to anticipate these cases and what the user will draw! sad

An other idea I had in mind for a while was to keep the length as it's displayed, and add an other label + value that would display the length minus the wall thickness. But I can't imagine a (short) label that new users will understand without troubling them, and anyway subtracting thickness from length isn't so hard, is it?
The only simple workaround I found until now was to let users create the walls around a room by double-clicking in it...
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Re: Option to enter a wall length minus the wall thickness

Is it possible to add an option to edit lenght of each side of the wall then? I think that in that case it would be possible to achieve what OP wants. Btw I suffer from that too:(

As for your workaround... Yes, it is possible to do this way but if I will change thickness of the wall after drawing walls around the room, drawing becomes inacurate, part of the wall gets placed on the room and if I want to reposition wall, it is very hard to do because there is no option to snap these walls to existing room:( Or am I missing something?
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Re: Option to enter a wall length minus the wall thickness

Rimvy,

There is an easy way to draw walls around a room:
- First draw the room
- Then click the Create Walls button
- Now double-click in the room
- Walls will be drawn around the room.

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Re: Option to enter a wall length minus the wall thickness

Hans,

Have you read my previous post?:) Draw the room (it is very hard to draw precise rectangle with advanced edit plugin btw:( ). Draw walls (15cm) around this room. And now change thickness of one wall to 40cm. You will see that part of this wall will be placed on existing room. So when I resize walls, these walls do not snap to room borders (magnetism is absent). So it is very hard to resize walls in such case:(
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Re: Option to enter a wall length minus the wall thickness

Rimvy,

I have read all your posts, and I understand your problem. Yes, magnetism between walls and floors would be nice under certain circumstances. But let's go back to the heart of the problem.

Have a look at this post. There's a nice drawing of the plan of an apartment which has walls of three different thicknesses. Imagine you have all the interior lengths of the walls, as well as every wall thickness. That means you should be able to perfectly reproduce the apartment in 3D.

Try to describe how you would want to do this. Do you start with rooms? With walls? Which order? Which tools would you need, and why?

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Re: Option to enter a wall length minus the wall thickness

I am follow this too, and I did try to create the room first then build the wall but the dimension is not very easy to get into the exact point, even I turn on magnet. Is there any better way to do this. and it is difficult to make the room close when the end point do not meet? please show me a better way to do this.
thanks.
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