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Re: Weird 3D Artifacts

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Thanks to cyphorage for your test and to quallemalle for willing to help further.

When I reported this bug to AMD, they asked me to provide dxdiag (in .txt) & msinfo32 (in .NFO) reports from the system which will capture the entire system configuration and drivers installed. If you could do that and send it [url=mailto:[email protected]]me[/url] (or them), this could help because I don’t own a PC where I can reproduce this issue.

About debugging JOGL, you could run the program by setting the [font=courier new]jogl.debug.DebugGL[/font] system property, for example by adding the line:

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-Djogl.debug.DebugGL
in a [font=courier new]SweetHome3D.l4j.ini[/font] file stored in the same folder as [font=courier new]SweetHome3D.exe[/font]. Then, you should run the program from the command line followed by [font=courier new]2>log.txt[/font] or maybe [font=courier new]1>log.txt[/font] to retrieve trace logs.
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Re: Weird 3D Artifacts

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Ok so here are my findings:

- created the .ini file and put debug parameter in it. Unfortunately this caused the software not to run anymore. Just the splash screen appeared and stayed visible. Had to cancel the Zulu Platform process via task manager.

- removed the .ini file and ran the program with logging to stderr (2>err.txt). Software booted and ran fine, but the err file provided the following:

"
WARNING: An illegal reflective access operation has occurred
WARNING: Illegal reflective access by javax.media.j3d.JoglPipeline (file:/D:/Programme/Sweet%20Home%203D/lib/java3d-1.6/j3dcore.jar) to method sun.awt.AppContext.getAppContext()
WARNING: Please consider reporting this to the maintainers of javax.media.j3d.JoglPipeline
WARNING: Use --illegal-access=warn to enable warnings of further illegal reflective access operations
WARNING: All illegal access operations will be denied in a future release
"

- trace logs (1>trace.log) were empty

- Also tried to play around with /runtime/conf/logging.properties and adding the debug parameter there but that did nothing :)

Would love to get some more debug info, any idea what went wrong?
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Thanks quallemalle for the dxdiag (in .txt) & msinfo32 (in .NFO) reports you sent me. I sent them to AMD.
Sorry for the wrong information about debugging JOGL, I should have tried myself first and would have seen that it doesn't work (it probably requires some modifications in Sweet Home 3D).

To all, AMD told me that they couldn't find any bug report about Sweet Home 3D that many of you sent!? Please be sure to use the form available at https://www.amd.com/en/support/contact-email-form so they can directly communicate with you and get the information that will help them. If you want a message to fill this form faster, you could write something like:
Hi,

I'm xxxx, a user of Sweet Home 3D, a free open source application developed in Java / OpenGL and available at https://www.sweethome3d.com/download.jsp
Since version > 22.5.1, AMD Adrenaline drivers provoke some display bugs in Sweet Home 3D where the OpenGL 3D view doesn't appear correctly anymore (see links at the end of this message). As reinstalling driver version 22.5.1 makes the program 3D view work correctly again, I guess a regression appeared in the more recent versions of AMD Adrenaline drivers. I hope you can fix it soon to avoid me to keep an old driver version installed in my system. Don't hesitate to ask me more details if needed.

Best regard,
xxxx

Bug reports available at:
https://sourceforge.net/p/sweethome3d/bugs/1108/
https://www.sweethome3d.com/support/for ... read,11888
As the form allows to attach some files, you could also send some screenshots showing the differences between a normal and buggy 3D view. Thanks!
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Re: Weird 3D Artifacts

Post by Blargh »

Same here; went from Nvidia to a new AMD 7900 XTX. Image with two walls, a bed, and a beer glass. The objects are causing insane spaghetti geometry.

https://i.imgur.com/2Ky2ako.png
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Re: Weird 3D Artifacts

Post by quallemalle »

No issue Puybaret :)
Will use the contact-email-form from AMD to send another bug report . Other OpenGL applications have the same issue according to a quick google search. I hope the users also are reporting their bugs.
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Re: Weird 3D Artifacts

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AMD is lying.

I have submitted about dozen bug reports concerning SweetHome3D with screenshots and detailed description of the issue during last 6 months...Basically one report per new Adrenalin driver version.
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Re: Weird 3D Artifacts

Post by yanagawak »

Reinstalled AMD 22.5.1 and problem solved.
Also seems to have improved other aspects of the display, generally. The latest version was having "jitters" and "microscopic blackouts".
Normally I always disable automatic updates for most softwares. But this time I reinstalled my PC and downloaded the latest version.
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Re: Weird 3D Artifacts

Post by yanagawak »

Also AMD's installer specifically allows for "downgrade" installation. No need to manually uninstall the previous version. On AMD's driver download page, two versions are provided, without suggestions that the user should install the latest one. It's as if they know that the latest version is going to have issues. They are just putting it out there for mass public beta testing.
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Re: Weird 3D Artifacts

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Ok so I went full circle with first level tech support of AMD via mail.
I sent them dxdiag and msinfo32 files as well as followed a lot of troubleshooting steps like updating chipset drivers, cleaning gpu driver via cleaning tool, ...
There is no known issue with OpenGL that they know of they told me. Best suggestion was to use the 22.5.1 driver and wait for future driver releases to fix the issue.
They also told me to file a bug report via Adrenalin Software, which I already did weeks ago. I would suggest you all do the same since first level is not going to get us anywhere.

How to use bug report tool:
https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/amdbrt
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Re: Weird 3D Artifacts

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Same issue with RX580 v22.11.2 drivers :/
Downgrade works => THX
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